Jaldhar Vyas in his reply regarding the concept of the thread ceremony stated that it is the second birth of the brahmana. Yes...that is correct. Not only does it allow the brahamana to study the Vedas, it allows him the right to perform rituals to Gods and to perform the death rites for his parents. It is very symbolic. Ananth. -- If Physics was a religion, we A.C. would have an easier time firstname.lastname@example.org raising money.