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Re: superstitions
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Subject: Re: superstitions
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From: manish@cadence.com (Manish Tandon)
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Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 15:11:18 GMT
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In article #1345, srinivas@Glue.umd.edu (Nagulapalli Srinivas) wrote:
|> In Article 1346 Manish Tandon (manish@cadence.com) writes:
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|> I don't get it. You think Vivekananda promoted "completely ignorant
|> views" and you consider him as "idiot", right?? Kudos to your originality
|> and irrationality.
Sorry to pitch in you stride, here is some exercise for your little brain,
Bhagavad Gita 7.15
na mam duskrtino mudhah prapadyante naradhamah
mayayapahrta-jnana asuram bhavam asritah
"Those miscreants who are grossly foolish, who are the lowest
among mankind, whose knowledge is stolen by illusion, and who
partake of the atheistic nature of deamons do not surrender
unto Me."
Since as per the Bhagavad Gita, Vivekananda is an IDIOT, so that is it.
We DO NOT say a word without the authority of the Bhagavad Gita.
|> Without logical, empirical, spiritual and even actual experience-based
|> proof to back-up,
Later in your response (and also in your responses on s.r.e.) you have said
that you dont accept Krishna, Chaitanya, Jesus etc. as authority, so for such
a person, spiritual proofs are out of question, although I have cited some
in my other responses to you on s.r.e.
As for logic or empirical, I can cite as many as you like (read AS MANY AS YOU
LIKE) to show WHY Vivekananda was an agnostic and WHY agnosticism is wrong.
|> a person who epitomised one of the sublime truths by actually living them
|> and not by mere preaching,
EATING MEAT being one of the epitomes of the subtlities of the
loftiness of the benevolance of this greatly renounced soul.
Thank you.
|> May be you should be sympathised with
-NO- need for the sympathy of an Agnostic or an IDIOT.
|> it takes more than language and even concepts and ideology to inspire
|> and uplift generations of people who still continue to get succor,
|> solace and guidance from the fountain of his teachings.
and a lot of foolish people also continue to get succor, solace and guidance
from the fountain of the teachings of Bhagavan Rajneesh, Sai Baba and other
such crooks.
|> I am not proposing anyone to blindly believe any one, be it Vivekananda,
|> Chaitanya, Krishna or Jesus,
The word HYPOCRITE comes to mind.
If you (or anyone else) think Lord Krishna is not God, than that renders the
whole Bhagavad Gita as simply a work of fiction, because as I have sited in
my response to some of your responses on s.r.e., B.G. is very clear, either
you have to accept what the Speaker is saying _OR_ reject the whole thing
(which in turn renders all the other scripture, both sruti and smriti, as
meaningless work of fiction, since all were compiled by Veda Vyasa).
Hypocrites try to say that they are religious without accepting ANY authority.
|> but only pointing that baseless and proofless conclusions coupled with
|> slandering is very mean, disgusting and degrading. The attitude of "I alone
|> am right and whosoever tells otherwise are ignorant and idiots", is at best,
|> a fanaticism and utter bankruptcy of your intellectual ability.
The attitude that "I will NOT accept anyone as final authority, rather I will
use my own whims to interpret the scriptures as and when I feel like or is
needed to show my relegiocity" is at best agnosticism and utter bankruptcy
of your intellectual ability.
|> -Srinivas Nagulapalli
Hare Krishna
