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Re: Vedanta Discussions
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Subject: Re: Vedanta Discussions
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From: manish@cadence.com (Manish Tandon)
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Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 15:47:32 GMT
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From news@cadence.com Fri Dec 23 10: 37:57 1994
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vijaypai@kachori.rice.edu (Vijay Sadananda Pai) writes:
|> In article <3d51g0$s9g@ucunix.san.uc.edu>,
|> Vidyasankar Sundaresan <vidya@cco.caltech.edu> wrote:
|> >Whoever has accepted that some Purana is Vedic scripture?
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|> Veda Vyasa has -- it's right there staring at you in Chandogya
|> Upanishad.
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|> "itihasa-puranah pancamah vedanam vedah"
|> The Itihasa and Puranas are the 5th Veda
|> Chandogya Upanishad (7.1.4)
I think the (not so) scholarly Vidya will now say one of the following:
1. Chandogya Upanisad is not one of the real (original 108) upanisads,
but one that ISKCON/Vaisnavas fabricated.
2. The term 'pancham veda' is used to elevate the status of whatever
needs to be (he has said this before), like aaurveda etc, and to
substantiate that, he will cite the ref. from something which is
neither sruti nor smriti.
3. The Puranas contridict each other, so we cannot accept their word
even if they are the fifth veda (this also he has said before and
was proven wrong).
4. The purva mimamsas said that Puranas are 'arthavada', so we don't have
to believe in their truth or falsehood. Here again he has been proven
wrong because 'arthavada' means "explanatory", which only proves
our point that they are the explanation given by Veda Vyasa himself
and hence their authority is higher than any other explanation given
by the acharyas including Jaimini, Shankara, Ramanuja, etc.
(Vidya, FYI, Srimad Bhagvatam is the 'arthavada' i.e. explanation,
of the Vedanta Sutra by Vyasa and given that it runs counter to the
Sriraka bhasya, Sriraka bhasya is the one that has to be rejected.)
5. some new figment of his brain.
|> This view has been supported by Sankara, Ramanuja, Madhva
|> and other great acaryas.
Hari Bol!