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Re: God and Demigods-is Ganesha demigod?
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To: alt-hindu@cis.ohio-state.edu
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Subject: Re: God and Demigods-is Ganesha demigod?
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From: susarla@great-gray.owlnet.rice.edu (H. Krishna Susarla)
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Date: 24 Dec 1994 08:32:24 GMT
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Distribution: world
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From news@larry.rice.edu Sat Dec 24 03: 20:29 1994
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Newsgroups: alt.hindu
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Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas
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References: <3dfpgr$8v8@ucunix.san.uc.edu>
Nagulapalli Srinivas (srinivas@Glue.umd.edu) wrote:
: In article #1726 H. Krishna Susarla (susarla@great-gray.owlnet.rice.edu) writes:
: >No. People who worship Lord Shiva go to the Kailasa planet, which is
: ^^^^^^
: >a higher planet in this material universe. However, everyone there
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: >prays to Krishna and hopes to be in Krishnaloka in their next birth.
: >So, Saivaites who attain Kailasa continue to advance in their spiritual
: >advancement. But their path is more indirect.
: My pranams and apologies for disagreeing to your most cherished and sacred
: ideologies. But come on man, you got to be kidding! Do you mean to say Kailasa
: is a planet?? After all a mere planet??? A kind of planet that orbits the Sun?
yes, yes, and yes, I suppose it does orbit its own star, or something.
: Also, what is "higher planet" in an endless void of space and vaccuum???
It is a place which is more conducive to spiritual advancement than the
Earth.
: Just as any planet that we know of has limits and boundaries, you think
: Kailas also has space-problems and will issue Non-resident visas for
: visitors!!! Forgive me for the parody, but I could not resist. I really
Not at all. Your nonsense is quite amusing.
: think we are capable of better ideas and logic. If you REALLY believe in the
: Vishwa-roopa of Krishna, where Past, Present, Future, all beings and
: Universe existed, I beg you to tell me what is different from Krishna??
: How can there be a Kailas other than Him ??? We want to fight over
: my theory ALONE is right and not stop there, but bite others saying that their
: theory IS WRONG!! We never want to agree that Truth is One and what does
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: it matter what label sticker you put on it, be it Krishna or Rama or Shiva
Oh cool!! Does this mean that anything I do is okay? So, can I make up
my own religion and still be following the Truth? After all, Truth is One,
so everything I do is part of the Truth!!! So, if my interpretation is
that one can worship a demon like Ravana, is this okay? It's part of the
One Truth, right? And what if I ate meat and smoked like your cherished
Vivekananda? It's all part of the Truth, right??? Maybe I should just stop
reading the Gita and start playing football, like he suggested.
Alt.Hindu readers take note! We have among us a great sage who suddenly
Understands!!! Everything is One! So don't waste your time in austerity or
devotional service! Just go out and gratify your senses; it's all part of
the One Truth!!!! Wow, I really like this guy. I think I will organize an
international conference to disseminate this great Truth. Isn't great to
finally have a religion which allows you to do anything you want? Everything
is okay, as long as it's your interpretation you are using to justify your
actions. That's more fun than all those other, dull religions which teach
you to give up things, like gambling and illicit sex and meat-eating and
so on. All we have to do is realize that everything is ONE, and then we
can do anything we want!!!
Finally! A religion for the modern age!
: or Jesus??? Who are we, who did not reach the level of ego-lessness to even
who are YOU, who reads a few books by the pseudo-swami Vivekananda and thinks
he can pronounce the universal, authoritative opinion on religion without
referring to any authority?
: imagine that the Grandest Truth may not be in the realms of the limited
: intelligence and how can the brain understand the mind of its own Creator,
: decree which path is indirect and which path is direct???!!!!
You are right about one thing; we can't use our tiny brains to understand
God. This is why we should refrain from the sort of mundane speculation
you just displayed here and simply accept what the Lord has told us.
[nonsense deleted]
: >The only people who ought to be ridiculed are those who claim to believe
: >in God, but then twist His words around to suit their own personal
: >philosophy of life.
: No one ought to be ridiculed by dear friend. We are all understanding Him
: at different levels, that is all. Lord is smarter than us and without His grace
: we would not even blink. We understand Lord's words and profundity of His
: teachings only to the extent and maturity of our own inner development. I had
The great Bhagavan Sri Rajneesh, who advocated free sex and machine gunned
down any follower who tried to leave his congregation, had his own
understanding of the Truth. What level of understanding of the Truth was
he at?
[more whining deleted]
Haribol!
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