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Re: Hinduism Outside India - the Future Hinduism Outside India - the Future



In article <3spl4h$brp@babbage.ece.uc.edu>,
   vivek@cs.rice.edu (Vivek Sadananda Pai) wrote:

>I've rambled for long enough, but I think that I'd be remiss
>if I didn't quote the following. It's the translation of verses
>8-12 of Chapter 12 of the Bhagavad Gita. It's from the
>Bhagavad Gita As It Is, Srila Prabhupada's translation, and
>it's where Krishna instructs Arjuna about the various "levels"
>of worship. It's best if you read the full purports, but this is
>a good place to bring them up.
>    
>"Just fix your mind upon Me, the Supreme Personality of Godhead,
> and engage all your intelligence in Me. Thus you will live in Me
> always, without a doubt.
>
>"My dear Arjuna, O winner of wealth, if you cannot fix your mind
> upon Me without deviation, then follow the regulative principles of
> bhakti-yoga. In this way develop a desire to attain Me.
>
>"If you cannot practice the regulations of bhakti-yoga, then just
> try to work for Me, because by working for Me you will come to the
> perfect stage.
>
>"If, however, you are unable to work in this consciousness of Me,
> then try to act giving up all results of your work and try to be
> self-situated.
>
>"If you cannot take to this practice, then engage yourself in the
> cultivation of knowledge. Better than knowledge, however, is
> meditation, and better than meditation is renunciation of the fruits of
> action, for by such renunciation one can attain peace of mind."
>
>copyright Bhaktivedanta Book Trust, used with permission

Well, as long as we are talking about the degneration of Hindu culture... I 
guess I will go out on a limb and beat a dead horse (well, only the horse's 
body is dead, but the REAL horse is an eternal spirit soul...).

Verses like the above clearly point to the importance of bhakti in the 
religious tradition. But many Hindus protest. They try to give their own 
interpretations, and in this way contradict the information given in the Gita. 
These people say that we don't have to take the scripture *literally*, but 
rather we should just take what we like and reject everything else. 

This is exactly the kind of attitude that contributes to the decline of Hindu 
tradition. If the Gita is not a respectable enough text for me to take as a 
manual for living, then how can I be proud of it? How can I be proud of the 
religious tradition which offered the Gita for our study? In fact, how is it 
really useful as a religious scripture if I am taught to put more emphasis on 
my own concocted opinions than on the opinions of Lord Krishna?

Many Christians have a great deal of faith in the Bible. Of course, this leads 
to all sorts of sticky inter-faith problems, but the bottom line is that they 
at least have pride in their religion. HIndus, on the other hand, have always 
been defensive in my experience. When confronted with adversity, they try to 
change the meaning of their customs in such a way so as to make it seem more 
palatable to the critics. For example, a Christian fundamentalist comes along 
and chastises Hindus for 'idol worship', and then some self-proclaimed Hindu 
swami comes along and says, "yes they are idols, but they are only for 
primitive people to worship. Actually there is no need for idols" rather than 
explaining the tradition of worshipping the arca-vigraha. Or, a Christian or 
Islamic missionary says Hinduism is evil because it is polytheistic, and a 
Hindu responds that actually it is not polytheistic, everything is a different 
form of God (yes, God has many forms, but to say that every entity who is 
worshipped is God is not correct). 

There is so much confusion among Hindus as to who is God, and what is the 
purpose of life. Everyone gives a different opinion, even though the facts are 
there for us to read in scripture. One person says everything is God. Another 
person says that God is ultimately unknowable. And another one says that God 
is just some imaginary sentiment. And all of these people call themselves and 
each other Hindus, and then pride themselves for their 'open-mindedness.' It's 
 ridiculous. 

Another example of this sort of Hindu moral relativism: One group says that we 
should be vegetarians, and that meat-eating is wrong. Another group says that 
yes, yes vegetarianism is nice, but you don't really have to be a vegetarian. 
One group says that certain regulative principles are necessary. Another group 
says that everything is okay, just chant some mantra and you will be God in 6 
months. 

And when some rascal like Pat Robertson comes along and starts attacking Vedic 
culture, we can try to do something about it by preaching the correct 
understanding of the Vedic tradition. We Vaishnavas preach that we are all 
ultimately persons, and that God is ultimately a person, and that we should 
endeavor to serve Him. But guess what happens? The Hindus go crazy. They 
scream "fundamentalist" or "intolerance" or some other combination of 
less-than-flattering metaphors. They say that we "are not real Hindus" and 
that Hindus "accept all religions" and ask everyone to simply disregard 
us. It's a catch-22 situation.

Basically, then, it comes down to this. Hindus fear losing their culture and 
say they want to learn about their religion and philosophy. But if you preach 
from scripture and they hear something they do not like (such as the idea 
that the Supreme Absolute Truth is a person), they automatically display their 
own closed-minded ideas and refuse to even consider what you say. As a result, 
Hindus continue to remain in ignorance as to the nature of God and the soul. 
And then they preach some impersonalist sentiment which Christian missionaries 
use as fuel for their hate campaigns.

I will give one more example. A little while ago I found myself in an e-mail 
discussion with a Christian over the Vedic understanding of God. It got 
absolutely nowhere because the Christian was convinced, after reading the 
opinions of various unauthorized Hindu swamis, that the Vedas were a mass of 
contradictory and confusing scriptures with no central idea as to the identity 
of the Supreme Godhead. While talking to him, I had to knock down so many 
impersonalist ideas which he kept bringing up, but still he would not listen. 
He was convinced, after reading the speculations of many Hindu swamijis (none 
of whom came from an authorized line of disciplic succession) that the Vedas 
were just a mass of impersonalist speculation and that the Bible was superior 
in every way. 

Well, it looks like I have written a novel, so let me just summarize what I am 
trying to say here:

1) Be open-minded. When someone presents an idea to you and it is based on 
scripture, don't reject it because you disagree. Keep in mind that you are 
fallible, and a religious scripture, which comes from God, should not be. It 
takes a little faith and a little humility, but I think you can learn a lot 
more this way.

2) Don't preach about the Vedic texts if you are not familiar with them. 
Hindus who preach that the Gita is about becoming one with God are doing a 
great disservice to us all by misrepresenting one of our Holy Texts. The 
fundamentalist missionaries use these misunderstandings to assert the 
superiority of their own religions, and consequently we have to deal with 
fools like Pat Robertson and other evangelists.

Yours,

-- HKS



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