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In article <4dnf2n$q2v@babbage.ece.uc.edu>, Sam Sanders <sns@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >You see in vijays posting ( given at the bottom )a perfect example of >how people misinterpret stuff just to get their own agenda of >reorganiation going.. oh boy, not this again >vijay, for your info it is not "issa" upanishad ( as you pointed out ) >but ishopanishad ( isha + upanishad - a sandhi ) and we all know know >isha is a short form for ishwara. "Ishopanishad" is another text altogether. It is the first in the list of Upanishads and undoubtedly bona-fide. The text Vivek (not Vijay) was referring to is a so-called "Max Mueller Upanishad", and he does indeed stand corrected: it is "Jesu-upanishad". "Issa" is the name by which a Jesus-like personality is referred in the Bhavisya Puraana. >All the philosophies that have originated from the soil of India do come >under Hinduism, have a tremendous number of common ideas ( infact much >more than the christian denominations ) and all people that follow those >philosophies are Hindus. Well, then, case closed. The Vedas did not originate "from the soil of India", as they didn't originate at all and are apaurusheya, at least according to themselves. So, your definition of Hindu doesn't meet my goals or yours, since now any person who follows Vedic philosophy is considered non-Hindu. Furthermore, if, as some poster claimed, that Jesus developed his philosophy in India, then your definition of Hindu would allow -- nay, require -- soc.religion.hindu.christian So, this wasn't a valid deconstruction. >>I have a question, then: Ajay proposed to created groups like >>soc.religion.hindu.shivism, so given that some people believe that >>Jesus had formed his philosophy in India, then what would people say >>to soc.religion.hindu.christian? >> >>After all, if Buddhism and Sikhism are part of Hinduism, then why >>wouldn't Christianity also be included, especially if Jesus did all of >>the above? There are even texts like the Issa Upanishad (I think >>that's what it's called), so there could even be a claim that there's >>scriptural justification of the name. >> >>-Vivek -- Vijay
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