Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 19:57:42 -0500 In article <W/I/wQ9zBgrO089yn@mantra.com>, Dr. Jai Maharaj <jai@eskimo.com> wrote: >Vidyasankar Sundaresan <vidya@cco.caltech.edu> wrote: >> . . . defeat of SRV. Furthermore, Ajay did not dissociate >> himself from Jai Maharaj's postings of edited CFV's, which >> implied that Jai had Ajay's backing. . . . > >Please post the evidence of your claim, or retract the claim >publicly. i am enclosing two posts, that say essentially that (1) you have email spammed against s.r.v. (2) you clamied that your email spam has Ajay Shah endorsement (2nd enclosure also shows that Ajay S denied such endorsement) (3) you have edited the call for voting showing only NO part earlier some one posted vote-takers post explaining that your action is against usenet rules, and hence your posts are cancelled. i am not repeating. POST ONE ***************************************************************** Fishy E-Mail: vote against soc.religion.vaishnava From: Gerald Penn <gpenn+@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: 1995/11/09 MessageID: YkcZV9200iISFPpqVE@andrew.cmu.edu#1/1 newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.misc,news.groups [..] is it the policy of the newsgroup administrators to allow the following sort of pandering to go on unchecked during a vote on the creation of a newsgroup? [..] I sincerely doubt that preying on unsuspecting users such as myself with solicitations on how to vote on soc.religion.vaishnava will either help me to accomplish that or ensure an equitable referendum on the group's future. Sincerely, Gerald Penn ------------------------------------------- From: jai@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj) To: Gerald Penn <gpenn+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: CFV: soc.religion.vaishnava moderated -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- You may wish to participate in these moderated newsgroups: alt.hindu soc.religion.hindu In a related important matter, kindly consider: Please vote concerning the proposed moderated newsgroup "soc.religion.vaishnava". An important point is that the name "soc.religion.hindu.vaishnava" would be better suited instead since the moderated newsgroup "soc.religion.hindu" already exists. Proper hierarchy structure would then be maintained. After SRH is voted down, the creation process for SRHV could begin in earnest. According to the rules, I sent my NO vote by e-mailing the following two-line message, second line filled in, to: votes@bagend.atl.ga.us I vote NO on soc.religion.vaishnava Voter name: [...] This request has the endorsement of Ajay Shah <ajay@mercury.aichem.arizona.edu> who is the moderator of soc.religion.hindu Sincerely yours, Jai Maharaj <jai@mantra.com> %:%:%:%:%:%:%:%:%:%:%:%:%:%:%:%:% Om Shanti %:%:% *******************end of POST ONE************************** POST TWO ********************************************************** Re: Fishy E-Mail: vote against soc.religion.vaishnava From: westfal@hookomo.aloha.net (Sharon Westfall) Date: 1995/11/12 MessageID: 485fof$au1@nuhou.aloha.net#1/1 newsgroups: news.groups Dr. Jai Maharaj (jai@aloha.com) wrote: : Gerald Penn (gpenn+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: : : [....is] : :it the policy of the newsgroup administrators to allow the following sort : : of pandering to go on unchecked during a vote on the creation of a : : newsgroup? . . . : This has been observed -- here is evidence of public redistribution : of a truncated CFV by Albert Vanderburg aka panther@lava.net -- Albert : Vanderburg is a supporter of ISKCON and has posted that he voted "yes": : Wrong answer again, Jai: 1. Albert distributed all the choices, yours just said vote NO. 2. Albert posted a public message, yours was email spam. And just how many people did you send this to, Jai? You never did answer this same question during the soc.culture.hawaii CFV. 3. You indicated endorsment of your message by the s.r.hindu moderator, he has denied this, in fact by now he's probably getting a little peeved that his personal views are being spammed and abused by you. 4. Albert has publicly written his very honest personal connection with ISCKON, as well as his honest personal connection with you. Yov've turned viciously on him. He hasn't done the same to you. ***************************END of POST TWO************************