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Re: SRH Reorg: Personal Vendetta : Conclusive "Proof"!
[i think it would be nice if we stop accusations, and
concentrate on contents of RFD, or a compromise. i have
snipped several of the excerpts, and picked only the ones that
have accusations to highlight this.[emphasis added by me at
some places]. Please *note*, however, that in the process i
might have taken away some of points of the arguments, but
as i stated, what i am trying to show is that we need to
tone down our emotions]
In article <4csg9j$j9b@babbage.ece.uc.edu>,
Rajiv Varma <rvarma@stallion.jsums.edu> wrote:
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>In article <4cgco4$jam@babbage.ece.uc.edu>,
>Vivek Sadananda Pai <vivek@cs.rice.edu> wrote:
>>In rough terms, there are probably 700 million Hindus in the world.
>Really .... Even after deducting the Five-star Vaishnavas? Sir?
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>>In simple terms, the reorg RFD makes several people moderators, and
>>the offer to have Ajay included as one still stands. If someone wanted
>>an RFD to designate someone as the "voice of the Hindus", then this
>>RFD isn't it, and I don't think I want to be put in the position of
>>deciding who is "speaking for the Hindus". I would much rather we be
>Nobody speaks for the Hindus, Sir. Not Ajay Shah. Not you. Neither Shrisha
>Rao. Nor Mani Vardarajan ji. Ajay Shah moderates, and we all (including
>non-Hindus, five-star vaishnavas, .... mongrels, et al. and as well as Sri
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>Partha Banerjee) SPEAK!
>>When asked to publically
>>refute this statement, Ajay did not (to the best of my knowledge), and
>>Jai kept repeating the claim over and over.
>But you did indicate that you might post a RFD: SRH reorg as a revenge.
>Let's get this straight. shall we? Even if you mean good, it cannot be
>done in retaliation. Mahatma Gandhi taught us "end never justifies the
>means, it the means which determine what the end will be".
>Don't tell me now, five-star vaishnavas cannot heed Mahatma's advice?
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>>More recently, some of us have been trying to reach a compromise on
>>this proposal. .....
>>I wish that the positive points of this proposal would
>>receive some attention, since there does seem to be a need for some
>>modification to SRH.
>This is an old tactic. Hindus always fall for this (looking at their
>history). Enemies of Hindus threaten to annihilate Hindus, and then
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>eventually force them to compromise.
>Finally the weak Hindu leadership offered them Pakistan on a
>platter. Blackmail works with the Hindus!
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>Perhaps that's what SRH reorg proponents wanted in the first place!
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>regards,
>rajiv varma
