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Re: Animal-Killing, and Soul-Merging Condemned
In article <4fecqp$7jl@babbage.ece.uc.edu>,
gmadras@pinto.engr.ucdavis.edu (Giri) wrote:
>>The same applies for anyone who claims that Prabhupada referred to Jesus
>>as an incarnation of Krishna; if they want to make a claim, they should
>>provide a reference.
>
>here is a section from his posting on alt.meditation titled 'bhakti'.
>It was posted in December. I am sure you can get it DejaNews etc.
Who's posting?
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>Krishna and Yas'aa (Yas'hua, Jesus) are One.
I don't know where Prabhupada said anything like this. Where did he ever write
such a thing?
Srila Prabhupada specifically said
>of Christ 'He is our guru' and that His body was transcendental. This is
This is different from saying that Christ is God. Prabhupada said that Christ
was a venerable spiritual master.
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>He recognized Him as the Only Begotten Son of God (Vedic Knowledge, the Word,
>Brahma, the first and the last) as is written:
No. Prabhupada never said that Christ was the "Only Begotten Son of God."
Whoever told you this is misrepresenting Prabhupada.
>Srimad Bhagavatam specifically calls Christ by name in the last mentioned
Incarn
>ation
>of the Lord (First Canto, 3rd Chapter verse 25):
>"...become the Son of Visnu Yas'aa (prounounced Yas'hua, identically the
given
No! The translation of this verse by Prabhupada is as follows:
"Thereafter, at the conjunction of two yugas, the Lord of the creation will
take His birth as the Kalki incarnation and become the son Vishnu Yas'aa. At
this time the rulers of the earth will have degenerated into plunderers."
This is a prediction of the Kalki avataar, not of Jesus.
>Aramaic name of Jesus) ..". Which, when transliterated becomes : "Son of God
Je
>sus"
And Vishnu Yas'aa is the father of Kalki; it is not another name for Jesus.
>Also, Collosians 1:15-24 specifically says of Christ that He is the Image of
the
>Invisible God, the Firstborn of all creation, .. and in Him all things were
made
> .."
>Hence He is identically known as Brahma, the original living being, master
Archi
>tect
>and Begotten offspring (Son) of God. Also the First Incarnation and the
Last.
>On the Oneness of Christ Jesus with the Father and the Holy SPirit, you need
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Whoever posted the above is misrepresenting Prabhupada. I'm not blaming you,
Giri, for not realizing this, but please understand this now. Prabhupada never
said that Jesus was the same as Krishna. In fact, if he had the heard the
speculative trash above, he probably would have chastised whoever had said it.
I doubt that the above came from a member of ISKCON. Whoever posted it
probably got some exposure to Hare Krishnas, and mixed it up with his own
Christian upbringing to produce something new. He may claim to be a Hare
Krishna, but what he says is not supported by Srila Prabhupada's own
teachings.
> I did not jump to any conclusion. I clearly say that I am not sure
>whether they are ISKCON members or not. If you refer to my above sentence,
>'>I am not even sure whether they belong to ISKCON ....'. Basically,
>I was saying that I don't know wther they were just name-dropping or
>whether they actually belonged to ISKCON.
They are definitely not ISKCON members. I'm not an ISKCON member, but I know
enough about their philosophy to tell what is, and what isn't a part of their
teachings.
Hare Krishna,
-- HKS
