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Re: Re :Problems in mu understanding of Advaita
On Mon, 26 Feb 1996, Sankar Jayanarayanan wrote:
> > Instead of calling these problems in advaita, wouldn't it
> > be better if you called it problems in my understanding of advaita because
>
> Sorry! I realised that and so changed the title :-)
Actually, you changed it to 'mu'. Mu (in Zen) means (n)either yes
(n)or no :-)
> Precisely-and since only the Self IS, the philosophy of Advaita itself must be
> unreal. That's what I meant then : Advaita states its own unreality. It's like
> saying that the mind can be shown to be unreal. How? By logic-i.e, the mind.
> To prove the non-existence of something, we use that thing itself - how can it
> then be unreal?
In a dream, all the images look real to you. But they are not real
when you are awake.
It is similar to the story of King Janaka who asked his Guru - vasistha.
'Yesterday night I dreamed I am a beggar, but i am a king. Or is that I am
a beggar dreaming that I am a king ?'. Vasistha replies 'Both and
neither, since there is only I, never born never dies' The details of
this story can be found in many books including 'The Gospel of Shri
Ramakrishna'.
Further, by logic, one can neither prove the world is real or the
world is unreal. You may read Anand Hudli's article on this a couple of
months back. Advaita is a philosophy. A philosophy, of course, ceases
to exist when thoughts cease to exist.
Only the Real IS since
When the mind exists undisturbed
nothing in the world can offend [or please]
and when a thing can no longer offend [or please]
it ceases to exist.
> > states and IS all the time. This subject is dealt in detail in
> > http://ddi.digital.net/~egodust
>
> yes, I read it. It was good. the idea of continuity of something to say that
> it exists...but again, how do I know that I didn't see anything in deep sleep?
> I might have seen something, only forgotten it later...
If you are seeing something in your deep sleep and then
forgetting it immediately, either you are not sleeping too well or your
memory must be really poor or both :-)
Namaste
Giri
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