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dchakrav@netserv.unmc.edu (Dhruba Chakravarti) wrote:
>Raviji, time is independednt of the mind. We may be measuring time
>using our mental faculties, but time is not our doing. We did not say,
>"let there be time, and there was time...". We merely found ways to
>measure it.
How do you know that time is independent of the mind? Consider for example a
dream. Time certainly exists for you. It certainly is your own creation in the
dream. Other people in your dream confirm the existence of time for you in your
dream (not after waking up). Time as in "the waking state" has no meaning in a
dream. In deep sleep there is no time, still the consciousness "I" exists. Thus
time is certainly a creation of the mind and nothing else.
>In timelessness, there is no past or present or future. What you ask
>the mind to accomplish is to understand timelessness, and if the mind
>can do that, then there is no past, present or future. Imagine that
>you are able to do that. Would you be able to see the flow of time?
>You would not, because time itself is not subject to sense perception.
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How can time not be subject to sense perception? Otherwise how will you know
that something such as time exists?
>The events that happen around us, are not really time dependent, in the
>sense, a mixture of Sodium hydroxide and Hydrochloric acid does not
>produce salt because otherwise it would be late for making salt.
>Events happen over time, not because time is passing by.
Some one must be there to perceive both time and events. How can time exist by
itself?
Ramakrishnan.
--
Everything is a concoction of time, space and energy only and all else is the
trite talk of people who dislike the effort of sadhana which takes them to the
Self. This talk is based on their dense ignorance of the Self. Only by persis-
tent practice and experience of sadhana can one arrive at the truth that all
concepts of souls, world and the cause thereof are just evanescent shadows in
the screen of Siva-Self-Brahman.
Ribhu Gita 24.31, Translated by N.R.K. Aiyer.
