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Re: ARTICLE : Who decided that all vaishnavs are not hindus?
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Subject: Re: ARTICLE : Who decided that all vaishnavs are not hindus?
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From: jai@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
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Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 18:07:09 -1000
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In-Reply-To: <4t1rf6$hba@babbage.ece.uc.edu>
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Organization: Mantra Corporation, USA
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References: <4t1rf6$hba@babbage.ece.uc.edu>
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Reply-To: "Dr. Jai Maharaj" <jai@eskimo.com>
In article <4t1rf6$hba@babbage.ece.uc.edu>,
of 23 Jul 1996 06:28:54 UTC,
rajaroy@ecf.toronto.edu (Roy Raja) wrote:
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> SRV has a FAQ that says that all vaishnavs are not
> hindus. This is really a far reaching statement, and
> I want to know who decided that. . . . - Raja
I do believe that the following post from the days when
they were trying to get votes for soc.religion.vaishnava
while opposing the idea of soc.religion.hindu.vaishnava
addresses the question:
=== SRV Proponent Says Vaishnav Not Hindu ===============
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: Subject: Re: On the Vaishnava newsgroup
: From: vidynath@math.ohio-state.edu (Vidhyanath K. Rao)
: Date: 24 Nov 1995
: Message-Id: <4955uo$2g0@math.mps.ohio-state.edu>
: Newsgroups: news.groups,soc.culture.indian
: Summary: Since when is Hindu a racial category?
:
: I stayed out of this debate since it seemed a tempest
: in a tea-pot; but this post proved to be eye-opening:
:
: In article <491ts8$lbd@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,
: Sue Breish <suebreish@aol.com> wrote:
:>
:> I'm one of the proponants, and my ancestory is
:> White-Anglo-Saxon, not Hindu. Converting to
:> vaishnavism has not darkened my skin color, or
:> changed the shape of my eyes, nose or other bodily
:> features. I do not consider myself a Hindu, but I
:> most definitely consider myself a vaishnava.
:> - Sue Breish <suebreish@aol.com> [SRV proponent]
:
: So what is i `Hindu': a cultural identity? a racial
: identity? Just what is the `majority religion' of
: India all the self-proclaimed secularists of India
: keep talking about?
:
: And, to those `vaishanavas' who don't want to
: associate with us darkies, all I can say is `Good
: riddance'.
:
: The argument that `Hindu' is an external term has a
: big hole. I use the term `Hinduism' rather than
: `Dharma' out of consideration for feelings of the
: `non-Dharma-followers'. oops `non-Hindus'. Now Panini
: refers to classical Sanskrit simply as `bhaashaa'
: (language). Does this mean that he no idea of
: Sanskrit as a langauge? `German' is a foriegn name;
: they call themselves `Deutsch'? Does this mean that
: Germanic cultural identity is a fiction?
:
: Talking about the term `Jew/Judaism': The name comes
: the tribal name. Yet are not Bene Israeli of India,
: Ethiopian Jews and European Jews are all considered
: to be Jews. Shall we reject the usage based on the
: etymology of the word?
:
: If Vaishanavas want to distance themselves the way
: Christians did from Jews, it is their business. Let
: us hope that Vaishnavas don't start any pograms.
:
: --
: Vidhyanath RaoIt is the man, not the method, that
: solves nathrao+@osu.eduthe problem. - Henri Poincare
: (614)-366-9341[as paraphrased by E. T. Bell]
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In my opinion, we Hindus can begin righting the wrong by
renaming SRV to
soc.religion.hindu.vaishnav
Dhanyavaad.
Jai Maharaj <jai@mantra.com> *-=Om Shanti=-*
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