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Re: Faith & Healing
vijaypai@mridangam.rice.edu (Vijay Sadananda Pai) writes:
^^^^^^^^
Wonderful musical instrument :-)
>In article <4rejsg$r12@babbage.ece.uc.edu>, Giri <mgiridhar@ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>>Vijay Pai wrote:
>> Not necc. They have looked at different states of consciousness
>>using biofeedback instruments and brainwave studies (alpha, beta etc).
>True, but even there they have to be prompted into it by promises of
>mysticism, or something like that.
I think some scientists atleast have a genuine interest as to
see whether the statements like "awareness during deep sleep" are true
or just the ramblings of a schizophrenic (and the vedic seers have
been accused of this disease by certain modern scientists. For example,
Franz alexander in psychoanalytic review writes that the urge for knowing
inward is some kind of artifical schizophrenia.) This is not just restricted
to Western psychologists, since indian physicians also checked the "sanity" of
Ramakrishna.
>> As you know, scientists can never *measure* happiness, or bliss.
>>The concept that you can be extremely happy by merely serving God [to the
>>best of ability] is beyond the grasp of any scientific instrument.
>The problem is also that many of them aren't willing to enter the laboratory...
And why should they ? Scientists can verify that chanting
mantras produces a relaxed state (alpha-wave activity) but they will never
advise you to chant :-) since that would be against "rational thought."
>> Maybe they were alien lifeforms. Just kidding.
>Crick might have gone for that, but I don't think current evolutionary
>biologist go for the "evolution by alien invasion" theory...
Who is this Crick ? From Watson and Crick of the DNA ? This evolution
by alien invasion has been explored to some depth and rejected, I think.
>> Maybe you can post in alt.jyotish and ask what science will come up
>>next :-)
>I already did -- there and also to alt.flame.jay-stevens in the very article
>to which you responded.
Hehe. Let us find out and jump on that bandwagon for writing
research proposals in that area :-)
>> Regarding God in the gaps of science, I thought He was everywhere,
>>both inside and outside the gaps :-).
> tad antarasya sarvasya / tad u sarvasyaasya baahyataH
>-- Vijay
Perfect !
Namaste
Giri
