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Re: Unity Of Purpose and Dharma
In article <ghenDw95un.5Lz@netcom.com>,
Sabberwal Suraj <sabberwa@NCSMSG02TR.ntc.nokia.com> wrote:
>It is good to note that many others share the concern of dirty politics
>creeping into the forum.
You mean like people writing notes calling others "black
sheep". Here's a free clue - I've contributed about an order of
magnitude more relevant articles to SRH and AH than you have, and the
archives should prove my point. It seems a little odd for you to jump
into this discussion and declare who is and who isn't a good Hindu
when you've been reading the newsgroup for a whole few months.
>It really pains all well meaning Hindus to come
>across people who needlessly try to divide the Hindu samaj for their own
>petty political squabbles.
You mean like people who decided that there are some "good Hindus" and
the others are "black sheep". Gosh, that sounds like "divid[ing] the
Hindu samaj," doesn't it?
>I believe that the momentum against having such petty political discussions
>is building up.
I believe the momentum against thinly veiled personal attacks like
yours is building up.
>It is ironical that whenever Hindus attempt to do something
>constructive (SRH is a case in point), black sheep within it's fold strike.
It is ironical [sic] that whenever a group of Hindus try to make
things better (and do - see the response time changes) that they will
be called black sheep. Then again, wasn't it a self-proclaimed Hindu
who decided that Gandhiji wasn't helping the Hindus?
>We have been far too tolerant of people making derogatory comments against
>the dharma .
"Yes, we must show our tolerance by calling them names, and perhaps
even threatening them with physical harm maybe. That way, we'll show
exactly how tolerant we are of discussion."
>We have been far too tolerant of people trying to divide the dharma.
"Yes, bhai, show them your tolerance by enforcing unity upon them"
>The worst part is that since the "black sheep" of our fold know that they
>can get away with any anti-Hindu comment, they gleefully continue their
>activities.
When fascists realize that they can get away with calling anyone who
doesn't think like they do "anti-Hindu black sheep", they will
gleefully trot out any type of tripe they want and hope that there are
enough clueless people out there who'll follow them.
>The propagation of negative myths against Hinduism, quite contrary to the
>fact that it is a "great religion", is because of the activities of these
>very black sheep.
Instead, should those "anti-black-sheep people" should attempt the
great Hindu whitewash, where anything which doesn't fit their view
of Hinduism be eliminated?
>They provide cannon fodder to the enemies of Hinduism and
>so it is a vicious circle.
Idiots who sweep everything under the rug of "protecting Hinduism" do
far more harm to it than any enemies could.
>One meets such black sheep of the Hindu fold everywhere; atleast the ones in
>direct contact with us should be discouraged in no uncertain terms.
How do you propose to discourage them? Call them names? Twist the
facts to support your claims? Keep on making these sorts of stupid
"rallying cry" articles?
>The extremely petty aspect of people trying to disrupt srh often makes one
>wonder how people miss the boat for wood !
You _are_ the one disrupting SRH. You can say Jai Hind as many times
as you want, but it doesn't change the fact that your entire article
consists of nothing more than just saying "hate this group of people".
>Thanks to all those expressing support against the activities of
>petty-minded people who would like to disrupt a well meaning Hindu forum. I
>take delight in understanding that your gesture is more as " one Hindu to
>another Hindu " which I value more than "one friend to another."
Lithium. Lots of it. now.
>May we all UNITE ,
>The majority of Vaishnavas as Hindus,
>The extreme minority of Vaishnavas as non-Hindus,
>The majority of ISKON followers as Hindus,
>The extreme minority of ISKON followers as non-Hindus
>in order to defeat those very people who try to DIVIDE the dharma and raise
>bad blood between it's various constituents.
You, Suraj, _are_ the one trying to raise bad blood between various
constituents.
Joseph Goebbels predicated all of his Nazi propaganda on the belief
that a lie repeated enough times becomes the truth, and you, Suraj,
are a prime example of that line of thinking. Without bother to
examine the facts, you've bought into the big lie and have now become
a spokesperson for it to the point where you want to cast out those
Hindus who you call "black sheep". Persecution in religion isn't a new
thing, but it is a scary thing, and it should be worrisome to anyone
when the self-proclaimed majority expects the minority to conform to
their beliefs.
Oh yes, of course, someone should point out that every time you go on
this war path, you show exactly how tolerant _your_ form of Hinduism
really is, or isn't. There - I guess I did it.
-Vivek
