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Subject: Re: ARTICLE : Just say no to "Hinduism" (was Re: ARTICLE : On
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From: "Bon_Giovanni EarthSpirit.org" <bongiovanni@delphi.com>
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Date: Sat, 31 Aug 96 15:28:52 -0500
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Newsgroups: soc.religion.hindu
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Pranams
I propose that acceptance of authority, and how it is
assigned or recognized, is an important consideration for
spiritual students. Thus I took note when Susarla was asked
to consider the meaning of the following statement:
> Krsna or Christ, The Name Is the Same
> Christ comes from the Greek word Christos, and Christos is the Greek
> version of the word Krsna. When an Indian person calls on Krsna, he
> often says "Krsta." Krsna is a Sanskrit word mean ing the object of
> attraction."
> When Jesus said, "Our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy
> name," that name of God was Krsta or Krsna. "Christ" is simply another
> way of saying "Krsta," and "Krsta" is another way of pronouncing Krsna.
Susarla was asked if he "would say that the above statement
was made by a neo-advaitic swami with the best of
intentions." He replied, "No I would not, because I happen to
know that the speaker is NOT an advaitin..."
I am sure he did not mean it was said with bad intent, but
rather only that he knew the author was not an adwaitan. That
admission however suggests it is not content, but the name or
title of the author that determines value to Susarla.
I used to do the same thing, used to decide value based on
author, until a correspondent pointed out the error of that:
it leads to utter acceptance without discrimination, and that
is a quality that aptly manifests at the end of sadhana, not
in its beginning or middle.
Thanks to my correspondent, (a student of Ching Hai), it is
now my view that the *authorship* of any text does not affect
its accuracy, value, or veracity, and might even be ignored
in one step of the discriminative intellect's study of the
statement. After all, if the truth is said by a sudra or by
a brahmin or by an atheist, surely it is the truth
nonetheless. So too if a falsity is said by a sudra or by
the Lord Himself, one does well to accord it proper place.
For example, should the Lord say things that are not so, were
He questioned, much sorrow might be avoided. I believe He
welcomes sincere questions, as is exampled in Gita.
So I took note when Susarla replied based more on author,
rather than content. Many sects teach "our way is right,
ignore others", and advise applicants to look to author
FIRST, and if the author is in the sampradaya, accept; if
not... well, look at how so many teachers and teachings are
mocked online. Most often it is because the names and titles
are outside the carper's clique, and so the critic tends to
not only ignore the ideas in a text, not only dismiss any
value therein, but perhaps even mock the ideas therein, as
well as mock the author or his or her title(s).
For example, at alt.hindu some time back I quoted a statement
by Swami, and VS Pai mocked it immediately. It was clear to
me Pai had mistakenly thought that the Swami I had qouted was
Sai Baba, one of those whom Pai and Susarla et cie have often
mocked, (never so politely as with the phrase `neo-advaitan
modernist swami')-- as if Truth is only true when signed by
an acharya of his sect. Parker, Jahnu, Susarla, and Rabeh all
exhibit that same attitude, and all support ISKCON.
That Susarla admits, in a sense, that he also depends on
knowing who said what, *before* interpreting it and thus
uses authorship, not content, in assigning validity, does
imply that ISKCON teaches its supporters to not depend for
spiritual instruction on the inherent Truth of a statement,
nor on Grace nor on insight nor on wisdom, but on clique.
That exclusivity is an attitude prevalent not only in
ISKCON, but in many modern spiritual organizations. I know
several Sai devotees who accept without question whatever is
signed Sathya Sai Baba, but will argue over the same text
quoted without attribution. It seems to be a mark of the
aspirant to defend what one believes is by one's teacher,
rather than support what is true regardless of who says it.
In my view, that is safe surely, but spiritual growth does
not depend on such safety for any but beginners, and to
FOREVER look to the author's name more than to the text in
order to determine meaning or value in the words, suggests
belief, not wisdom, and shows an unwillingnss to think for
oneself or to determine reality or truth or GOD for oneself,
nor to recognzie Him, so much as to demand to be told by
third parties what is going on. The signature is that third
party, and is a dependence, in my view, to be eschewed in
sadhana, not admired, since acceptance of a monopolistic
authority due to NAME or TITLE, sometimes results in an
anti-spiritual denunciation of other names and titles, and
can inculcate an unexamined narrowminded cultishness, if not
a horrible spiritual deadening via arrogance.
>Secondly, I do know that the speaker of this article is of
>the opinion that Christianity, like Buddhism and Advaita, was
>a religion taught to uplift people who were not ready to hear
>the full understanding of sanaatana-dharma. He does not claim
>that Christianity is on the same level as Krishna-worship,
>and in fact he explicitly states the opposite in some cases.
It is then perhaps wise to listen carefully when that Swami
preaches His own sectarian views, and then turn a very
discerning ear should He preach something scriptural outside
His own sect, such as Christian or Buddhist theologies (or
any topic not within His expertise, such as astrophysics for
example).
I advise a similar discriminative listening to all spiritual
aspirants, including Sai devotees. To examine beyond title or
assigned authority, helps one become discriminating,
insightful, and dependent on truth itself rather than on
`who' says the truth. I therefore suggest that those who
actively seek Truth as a direct experience, not only need not
know an author's identity in order to determine if he or she
is speaking fact or fancy or fiction, but might even ingore
the authorship. There is a ring to Truth, a tone that does
not depend on signature or title, one that arises in the
heart and resonates via one's own direct experience, not by
rote, and not by signature. Those who see an animal or an
illegitmate child or a sage as equal spiritual emdodiments,
tend to appreciate that, and so speak (and accept) the truth
accordingly, even anonymously.
This is my considered opinion. Thank you for your attention.
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