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> Really! First you say you are looking for material connecting shaivism
> to ganja and what not and now you claim to know some ancient myths
> connecting shiva to ganja. Make up your mind.
Make up my mind about what? Even if I know myths picturing Shiva as Lord
of Charas, good and stoned, I guess I`m allowed to search for more
information on the phenomenon. Or is the idea about religious use of
cannabis inside contemporary hinduism so insulting to you that you have
to go hunting for every sign of inconsistency in my text instead of
discussing the topic?
> Some catholics invoke Jesus and his death for their hatred towards Jews.
> That does not mean anti-semitism is a part of catholicism or that Jesus
> would have sanctioned it.
What do this have to do with smoking sadhus. Among the Shaivas,
especially the dhuni-walas, are often smoking charas. And even if many
babas doesn`t smoke and many of them doesn`t consider it an acceptable
upaya, still many sadhus do smoke. But not only Shaivas smoke. Tantric
sects like Aghora and the Nats do use these substances as a part of
their religious practice. I don`t understand why this is so offensive to
you. Cannabis is a plant which are growing wild in the lower Himalayas.
People have known the plant for thousands of years. It`s only natural
that different plants with different effects enter into the lives of
people, in their religion and in other parts of the culture.
>
> Drugs are a phenomenon in any reasonably advanced society. That doesn't
> make it a part of religion. Just because some jobless sadhus smoke ganja
> and recite the name of shiva or whoever before they do it, doesn't make
> it a part of shaivism or whoever'ism.
Really? Doesn`t drugs enter the society and take a place in their
religion? What about Soma? The vedic religion definitely had its use of
a hallucinogen. Over the whole clode people are using drugs in their
religion. And the jobless sadhus which are smoking ganja are just
unemployed freaks, I guess. Not real seekers like the jobless
non-smoking sadhus.
Bam Bam Bholanath!
Knut
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