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An opinion on Dr. Vartak's Dating of the Mahabharat ...

I had earlier mentioned that the Mahabharat War initiated on the  16th
October  5561  B.C,  i.e.,  approximately 7500 years since today.  The
Vedas have been mentioned  in  the  Mahabharat  (as  well  as  in  the
Ramayan),  the Yogic sciences were also prevelant at that time, ..  it
follows that the Saunskrut language was also  known,  mathematics  was
quite  advanced  as astronomical positions were used to record events.

It is probable that the entire chronology  of  Indian  History,  which
basically  has  been  built upon the dates stated by Western scholars,
needs to be re-evaluated based upon the current  archaeological  find-
ings, astronomical calculations etc. Gautam Buddha who is mentioned to
have existed around 580  B.C  may  go  further  beyond  to  1800  B.C!
Mahaveer  Jain before that.....the instituion of Shankaryacharya could
pre-date Christ and so on and so forth!!!!

Dr. P.V Vartak has done a commendable job calculating the date of  the
Mahabharat War. Here-under produced is an opinion on his work.

                 The Correct Date of the Mahabharat War
                   (By : Wrangler G.L. Chandratreya)

Quite a number of efforts have been made by various scholars  to  find
the  date of the Mahabharat War. Various methods have been used, using
historical references in the Puranas, language conditions, archaeolog-
ical  findings  etc. A few have used astronomical methods to determine
the time of Mahabharat. It is possible to determine  the  date  of  an
astronomical reference by considering the movements of planets includ-
ing the Sun and the Moon in the various constellations of the sky, the
movement  of  the Earth with its axis inclined to the ecliptic and the
precession and nutation of this axis as well as the  seasonal  changes
refered to in the text

I had the pleasure of going through the work done by Dr. P.V.  Vartak,
"The  Scientific  Dating  of  the  Mahabharat  War" and I find it very
interesting.  The astronomical references in the Mahabharat have  been
gone  through  carefully  and  the  positions  of  the planets Saturn,
Jupiter etc. in the constellations are finalized  by  properly  under-
standing  the  distribution of the Sayan and Nirayan systems. This has
been done by considering the references from the view  point  of  con-
sistency. A particular period has been obtained from the references to
various dynasties to Kings, accounts to writings of  foreign  visitors
to India and the references in those countries in this connection like
Greece, Egypt and Persia.

The periods of the various planets being known, have been used to find
the  positions  of  the  planets,  including  Rahu  and  Ketu  in  the
constellation of the sky by mathematical method. These positions agree
with  those  in the Mahabharat text. The agreement cannot be by chance
and so it is reasonable to argue that the date of the  Mahabharat  War
is as given by Dr. P.V Vartak, i.e., 16th October 5561 year B.C.

The seasonal references to various incidents  in  the  Mahabharat  are
investigated  and  they  also agree with the calculations of the exact
dates during the period mentioned. The Tropical year and  the  Sideral
year  have been used for verifying these dates. Thus the references to
the Equinoxes and the Solstices (Aayans) have also been accounted for.

I am unable to say if all  the  references  (astronomical)  have  been
taken into account. But it is quite reasonable to to conclude that the
dates as obtained by Dr. P.V. Vartak are correct. It  has  been  shown
that the other dates are inconsistent with the references.

Additional efforts will have to be put in by calculating the positions
of  the planets at some other times and verifying the methods used. It
is possible to find the dates of other works,  medieval  and  ancient,
and  verifying  these with the actuals as known to us. It will also be
useful to determine the changes in the seasons mentioned and comparing
to  the  period mentioned by applying the principle of the two systems
of calender - Solar and Luni-Solar and calculating the difference  due
to the precession of earth's axis.

All in all, it is possible to state that the dates derived by Dr. Var-
tak  are more correct than the various other dates propounded by other
workers in the field who have been carried over by the statements made
by Western scholars. They have been prejudiced against the richness of
the Indian Civilization in the past and have always tried to attribute
much  later  dates  and  consequently  denigrate  the glorious past of

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