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Religion and the Vedas
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Subject: Religion and the Vedas
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From: nparker@crl.com (Nathan Parker)
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Date: 11 Mar 1995 15:46:32 -0800
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From nparker@crl.com Sat Mar 11 18: 37:41 1995
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[ Article crossposted from soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.bengali,soc.culture.indian.telugu,soc.culture.indian.kerala ]
[ Author was Nathan Parker ]
[ Posted on 11 Mar 1995 15:45:49 -0800 ]
The following is part of a lecture given by Sriman Atmatattva Das
Adhikari at a seminar for Calcutta college students in Mayapur, West
Bengal.
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Religion and the Vedas
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In religion generally we see two kinds of notions which are
actually not scientific religion. Which do not carry the essence of
religion, sar. Essence is not there. The difference between bamboo and
the sugar cane, sugar cane is also a kind of bamboo, bamboo category of
plants. Leaves on the top, leaves on the bottom. So if you bite on
bamboo you will see nothing comes out, except teeth. But sugar cane is
different, it gives you some sar, there is some sar inside. So religion
which is coming from conditional consciousness is actually like bamboo.
Thin bamboo may look like sugar can but it has no essence in it. There is
no sweetness. So those notions or ideas of religion which do not carry the
essence of religion, they will not satisfy the needs of the living being.
When we speak of needs then there are two kinds of needs. One is the
needs for existing and another is the need of ones origional
constitutional existence. Two kinds of existence we have. Our body is
there so we have to live, this means we have to eat, to sleep, unless you
have taken a vow of celibacy then you have to mate, and you have to
defend. These are four kinds of activities of physical existence.
Eating, sleeping, mating and defending. So this is one existence.
Another existence is the existence of the soul. Needs of existence means
the soul also means sustenance. What is that sustenance? That is that
the soul needs his relationship with the absolute truth, the absolute
reality. That is the souls sustenance. If th e soul is not sustained
then it is very difficult, even if the body is sustained. Of course both
are important. You should not think that body is not important. Body and
soul are both important, but between these two the soul is more important.
Body i s also very important. If body was not very important, then why we
give all these principles? These are all done by body only - meat eating,
intoxication, illicit sex, gambling. These are all bodily activities
only. If body has no importance, then why do all this. Soul doesnt eat
meat, soul doesnt smoke, soul doesnt drink. Soul doesnt do any of
this, so what is the problem. Because the soul lives in the body, so
there is problem. So body is important too. How we keep the body, what
we do with the body is very important. Because whatever we do with the
senses, that leaves an impression in your mind and according to that your
future thinking will develop. So thinking, feeling and willing and doing.
So if you think properly then you will do p roperly. If you are thinking
improperly then you will be doing improper things. So it is very
necessary to also control the mind and keep it in its proper position.
Proper position of mind means under the control of the intelligence.
Intelligence shou ld not be working on false ego platform. It should work
on its real position. So these are all a lot of technical points. You
will come across when you read Bhagavad-Gita As It Is, which is very
nicely explained by Krsna to Arjuna. So this existence n eeds our, our
existence have to be satisfied. If the needs are not satisfied there will
always be agitation. Theology cannot satisfy the needs. This is very
much true, especially in Bengal all the preachers have gone a little too
far, stretched it too far, that to the extent that, they say that an empty
stomach you cannot meditate on God, etc. But actually in one way that is
true, because if the needs are there, you wont be peaceful if the needs
are not satisfied. And if you are not peaceful then you cannot accomplish
anything, material or spiritual, it does not matter. One has to be
peaceful to be happy. If one is not happy then there will be no proper
consciousness. If there is no proper consciousness there will be no fixed
intelligence and then it becomes very difficult. Needs have to be
satisfied. So we have to know what are the needs, that the main point.
Now, the body has its needs, eating, sleeping, matining and defending.
And the soul also has needs, the soul also has to be sustained, t hat is
very important. So real religion that satisfies the need of the soul,
this is called the essence of religion. Real religion means it satisfies
the needs of the soul. The soul is also hankering for something. Just
like the stomach is hankering f or food, the eye is hankering for sight,
the skin is hankering for touch, the soul is hankering for something. If
that hankering of the soul is not satisfied by a process of religion then
that religion will automatically fall in this category of upadharm a,
apadharma, subsidiary religion, essenceless religion, resultless religion,
religion with obscure practices, all these type of things are due to not
satisfying the souls need. If the souls needs are satisfied then
automatically the body or the mind wil l not demand peverted satisfaction.
Because the gross body and the subtle body is given to the soul for
satisfying its desires, its very simple. If the souls desires, which are
proper desires, are satisfied by existing within body and mind, then why
wou ld the soul express materialistic consciousness? So this is the
process of Krsna consciousness, that the soul is allowed to function or
act in its original constitutional postition. That is known as Krsna
consciousness. Krsna consciousness is not some big mystic stuff. Krsna
consciousness is a very simple thing. It is very simple, maybe it is very
difficult to accomplish. Why it is difficult to accomplish? Because of
our conditioning of karma, jnana and upasana it becomes difficult to
accomplish bu t still it is the most simple thing, very simple. That the
souls desires, the souls hankerings are satisfied by letting the soul
express its origional qualities or nature through its senses which are
given to the soul for its satisfaction. So if the sen ses are seeing and
touching and smelling and eating and walking and grabbing and leaving etc.
etc. etc. and all that will simply satisfy the needs of the soul, then why
there will be misery? (?) Why there will be bewilderment? (?) Why there
will be mise ry? (QUOTE?) If one sees that harmony, if that harmony is
made possible, then why misery, why bewilderment? That is the question or
challenge of the Upanisads to the modern biological philosophers. This
philosophy, everything is biological, Upanisad is challenging, giving a
big challenge. It is saying that if that harmony can be established
between material and anti material, then why there will be bewilderment
and why there will be misery. In other words, if you establish that
harmony there will be no misery and there should be no bewilderment, there
will be no misappropriation, there will be no exploitation, there will be
no necessity of any ism - socialism, communism, capatalism, all these isms
will be just null and void. Because the harmony is a lready there. The
soul is satisfied, then no problem. As long as the soul is not satisfied,
no matter how many isms you bring in you will solve one problem and then
another problem will come. And then another problem you will solve and
then the solution to that problem will become the next problem. Prahlad
Maharaja says that the solution is bigger than the problem itself, this is
called materialistic endeavour. So this is a very important point to
know. Its simply that the soul is conditioned or cov ered by
materialistic consciousness so the actual needs are not understood. So
the physical needs, one life or multiple lives or single life, whatever,
these needs are given so much importance and the real essence or the real
desire or the real demand of the soul is completely neglected. So due to
that these three types of categories of existence or religious notions,
they come. And in karma, as I explained to you, there are atheistic
fruitive workers who simply take to no ceremonies no religion, but t hey
just work and they get the result and they want to enjoy the result. So
this is atheistic fruitive worker. And the theistic fruitive worker he
follows scriptures, he goes to church or mosque or temple or any one of
those, you know, whatever, some re ligious communion and does certain
activities, reads certain books, does certain ceremonies, develops certain
faith and in this way he is thinking this will fulfill all the needs of my
physical existence. Thats the whole thing. So it is known as busines s.
As much as the Moslem is thinking, let me go to the Durga and pray so that
my mother in law will die and I will get property. And the Hindu is
thinking the same thing, he thinks let me go to Tirupati and shave my head
and pray to the Lord and say tha t if I get some property, I will give You
half. (?) and the only way I will get property is if my father will (?).
So in this way let everyone die and let me become happy. This is all
fruitive, that some kind of result from sense enjoyment is expected. So
this is two different categories of karma. In jnana also there are two
categories, three categories practically. One is as usual atheistic
jnana. Just like atheistic karma fruitive, atheistic speculation is
there. Atheistic speculation are all th ese different isms. They try to
remove the problems of rich and poor, white and black, fat and thin, east
and west, tall and short, they try to adjust it by some kind of
philosophy, by some kind of a speculative thought and they think that this
will solv e the problem. There is one man who decided to bring one
handful of mud from all the different cities of the world. And he put all
that in one place and mixed it together. His plan was that if you do
this, there will be international unity. And then he made one man from
each country bring mud and one woman from each country bring mud. And
then after making this mud kitcheri, he got one man from one country to
marry one woman from another country, in this way he just combined the
races. And he said that children born to these couples would belong to no
race, so there will be no racial problem. So this is very great scholar,
jnani, he stands in front of Victoria and the crows pass stool on his
head. So this is philosophical speculation - theistic a nd atheistic.
Atheistic is simply bring the mud and mix it all together or some kind of
a philosophy like communism. Kill all the rich men and make the state the
centre of all activities. And state means what? A few intelligent guys
in Moscow, so they can pass stool on everybody else. so this is called
communism. So there are so many such things, these atheistic
philosophies. Then there is the theistic group of jnana, they take the
Vedic philosophies and because they do not, they are not interested in the
ultimate need of the soul, they are only interested in intermediate needs
so they dont show what is the ultimate source. They only show the
intermediate sources. Intermediate source means intermediate result.
Ultimate resource means ultimate re sult. So one man gets up and says
that everything comes from atom and another man gets up behind him and
says no, no everything comes from the combination of atoms. Another man
gets up and he says no, no, actually you are only seeing the atoms but you
m ust understand it is the material nature. So material nature is the
source of everything. So another fellow he gets up and he says no, no
this is material nature but how can it work without consciousness,
consciousness is the source of everything. Then another fellow gets up and
says what is this, all of you are misguided, because atom is there,
material nature is there, consciousness is there, but with consciousness
you are performing activities. And the activities are giving reactions so
everything c omes from activity, so activity is the ultimate. And another
person comes and says you are all mistaken. You are talking of activity
reaction and all that, but all that is existing in some kind of eternal
substance, you see. And that eternal substance which does not involve in
any of this, that is truth, everything else is mithya. So this is the
sixth philosophy. So there are six kinds of philosophies, these are
atheistic. We are all theistic in the sense that they are based on Vedas
and they speak about certain things which are within Vedas, but they are
actually not that theistic. They look theistic because they all have sika
and they all wear some kind of thing in their neck and they put some kind
of tilak this way and this way and this way. T riangular, circular all
kinds of geometry on their forehead. So they do all that. They are not
giving the essence of religion, they are all speculating Why they
speculate like that? Because if you take one particular thing as the
source then you can e xpect a particular level of results from that. So
they only want that type of result, they dont want ultimate result. They
do not want to satisfy the soul, they want to satisfy the need of the
body, of the mind, the intelligence, the false ego. Due to these things
they make up these philosophies. So that is known as jnana. And the tat
category in this is that they are known as yogis. Jnana and yoga they are
not very much different, they are almost same. The yogi, whatever these
people do by specula tion, and by mind, by expanding the mind, he does it
by control of the mind and acting on (?) level. This is known as yoga.
Generally yoga is known as astanga yoga. In astanga yoga if you take two
of them or three of them or four of them or five of the m or a combination
of them you can create so many different yoga lines. So astanga yoga is
the main basis. These yogis also come out of that philosopher. One
philosopher who says that consciousness is the basis of everything. So
his process for perfec tion of life is yoga. And that yoga has got eight
limbs. Eight, asta anga, means eight limbs. The first one is known as
yama. Yama means rules. And niyama is the next one and means regulations
- rules and regulations. Then asana, means sitting in pr oper postures,
keeping the physique in proper posture while performing your meditation.
That is known as asana. And when you do that you control your breath.
This breath control is known as pranayama. And then while doing pranayama
then naturally you have to control your senses from running behind the
sense objects that is known as pratyahara. Praty ahara. Ahara means
food, praty means against, the senses have their food, they go for their
food so you tell the senses dont go for it. This is called pratyahara.
And then you have dharana. Dharana means you catch one particular thought
and just absorb in that thought, this is known as dharana. Means
catching. Then if that is extended for a long time without any
disturbance, in dharana there is dis turbance, and if those disturbances
are removed that is known as dhyana - means meditation. And then if that
dhyana absorbs very nicely your whole existence is absorbed in it and you
dont know anything, you know certain things are happening outside, no c
itta vrtti, no agitation of mind is there. But you know that if I sit here
I know that there is the sound of pukur there, and some birds here and
somebody Haribol there. But I am fully absorbed in my thought, that is
known as one kind of samadhi. That is savikalpa samadhi, vikalpa means
agitation savikalpa means with agitation, and then if you practice that
very nicely, you enter into a stage where outside happenings are also not
known to you. Youre only absorbed in whatever thought you a meditating
upo n, that is known as (?) vikalpa samadhi, (?) vikalpa means no
agitation. This is known as astanga yoga. And astanga yoga, they all
promise some result. For example the karma-kanda, it will promise you if
you do this you will get a beautiful wife etc. So the jnana will promise
cessation of material miseries. All these different 6 systems of
philosophy they will promise you that if you do this, what will be the
result? There will be no problem. All the material problems will be
finished - no more. A nd the yogi or the yoga school, that will say that
if you do this you can control the matter. So there will be no problem.
The two ways of cessation of misery. Yoga is also cessation of material
misery. What is the result of yoga? The result of yoga is siddhi.
Result of karma is bhukti. Bhukti means to enjoy senses. The result of
jnana is mukti, cessation of material misery. The result of yoga is
siddhi. So all these jnanis and karmis and yogis they are all karmi.
They are all lusty. He is bhu kti karmi, he is mukti karmi and the yogi
is siddhi karmi. And this upasana fellow he is again bhukti karmi. This
is one life bhutki; this is many life bhukti. But anyway they are both
bhukti karmi, they want to have sense enjoyment. Jnani wants cessa tion
of senses; because the senses are there they are agitated. Because they
are agitated there is happiness and misery. No senses, no agitation. No
agitation, no misery no happiness, nothing. Period. So they are all
karmi, bhukti karmi, mukti karmi and siddhi karmi. But there is another
group of people, that is this line, the real religion, they are having no
such karma. They are known as niskarmi, niskarmi means there is no
selfish want, there is no selfish desire there. So niskarmi, krsna bhakt
a niskarmi. Because of that he is very peaceful. And without peace there
is no happiness. And without happiness there is no proper consciousness.
Without proper consciousness there is no accomplishment, it is not
possible. (?QUOTE) So if you want to g et fixed consciousness, the symptom
of it is peacefulness. That one becomes very peaceful. He is not
agitated. You come and tell him that Hussein has declared war or you come
and tell him that V.P. Singh is stepping down, or you come and tell him
(?) h as passed urine on his nose, he is not agitated. You come and say
there is famine, you come and say that you won the lottery and suddenly
you have got Rs. 50,000, hes not agitated. So this is called peaceful.
(?) He is very peaceful because he is niska rmi. So this is the problem
of these materialistic religions, what is the problem? The essence of
religion is not carried. In other words the satisfaction of the soul is
not given. In other words material, transient, temporary happiness, or
cessation of misery, or temporarily being controller of material nature is
advocated as the ultimate goal of life. Due to this they cannot give the
satisfaction that the soul is actually hankering for. And these such
conditional religious activities are all base d on, if they are not
atheistic, are all based on these books, called Vedas. Veda comes from
the root word vid, means to know. Veda means knowledge, so it is all
coming from there. Even the atheistic isms and philosophies are simply a
perverted reflect ion of the Vedic philosophies only. It is just a
permutation and combination of certain Vedic philosophies mixed together,
and they dont know that it is mixed together but they think they have
found out some great thing. Karl Marx, they think that he f ound
something, but it is not true, it is all just a mixture of original stuff,
thats all. So, all that comes from the Vedas. In the Veda, most of the
Veda is known as karma kanda. 80% of the Vedic verses are karma kanda
verses. Karma kanda means this fuitive religion. You do this you get
that, you do that you get this.
And then you have jnana kanda. Jnana kanda means the part of the
Vedas that dicusses about the difference between matter and spirit. And
the qualities of the soul, this is known as jnana kanda. But discussing
nature of the soul and qualities of the so ul is not complete
understanding of the soul. That is just like saying that suppose that
somebody asks you, who is your chief minister. And you say he is a
Bengali. But that doesnt explain everything. Then you may say he is a
communist by his philosop hy. That doesnt explain everything, there are
many other things, there are many other credits to Jyoti Basus existence.
More than just that he is a very sharp man compared to (?). There are
other causes too, not just because he is three inches shorter he became
chief minister. Thats not true. there are other reasons. So it doesnt
explain everything, if you simply say Basu (?BENGALI), so thats not enough
(?BENGALI).So many people in (?) So just by being the secretary of the
ricksaw pullers associat ion, nobody becomes chief minister. there have
been so many secretaries like that. So there is a lot more information on
Basu, its not just that. So same way if we simply say soul and souls
nature (?QUOTE) that does not actually give you complete under standing,
simply you are saying Jyoti Basu is Bengali, thats all. Soul is
uncutable, thats all. So that is jnana kanda. And then there is upasana
kanda. That gives all kind of instruction on how to worship and whom to
worship, when to worship, with wh at to worship, all that is there in the
upasana kanda. So these are the three parts of the Veda, karma kanda,
jnana kanda and upasana kanda. Now, Veda is also compared to a tree.
There is a tree, Krsna mentions, whose roots are upwards and whose branc
hes and leaves are downwards. How can you think of a tree like that,
whose brances and leaves are down and whose roots are up? You can see it
in this lake, you can see it. You see these trees, they reflect in the
lake, they have their roots up and thei r branches and leaves down.
(?QUOTE) It is told by very learned people that there is a tree which has
got its roots upwards and branches and leaves downwards and that tree is
not manifest, it is not very physically visible, (?QUOTE) The Vedic verses
are i ts leaves. And leaves means that brances are there, because the
leaves are stuck on the brances. So these Vedas have leaves and branches.
If you simply go for the leaves and braches you get this, karma, jnana and
upasana. But there is another thing in the tree which is the final
product of the tree, what is he final product of a tree? Fruit. That has
got the real stuff, the essence is there, sar is there. Leaf and branch
and they are all tree, tree only, very nice, but they are not the final
produc t. So if you want final result you have to go to the final
product. The final product is known as fruit. Because these are just (?)
so you dont actually get the ultimate result. So (?QUOTE) One who knows
that (?) he knows the Vedas. And what is it th at to be known by the
Vedas? Krsna explains it as well. (?QUOTE) Only I am to be known by the
Vedas. So if the leaves and branches are there and they are giving you
jnana, karma and upasana, and Krsna says that I am to be known, so who is
the fruit of the Vedas or what is the fruit of the Vedas? The fruit of
the Vedas must be Krsna. He is the fruit of the Vedas. And this sense
enjoyment which comes by performing religious ceremonies, and the sense
cessation which comes by jnana and this sensual cont rol over material
nature which comes by yoga and then the sense pleasure which comes from
upasana, all these are all considered as biting on the leaves and biting
on the branch and the tree. Because the real fruit is Krsna. So there
must be a process by which one can get the fruit. And that process will
actually be the real religion. And others will have to be, practically
speaking, kicked out! This is very important. Completely rejecting, that
is the process. Unless you completely reject these thr ee it is very
difficult for you to understand the value of the fruit, if you simply eat
the leaf and spit, for hundreds of year, then it is very difficult for you
to understand and value the fruit. (?QUOTE) Dharma projita means
completely rejecting. Com pletely kicking out all subsidiary religious
attractions. Why? Because they are cheating. What is the cheating?
That we have already discussed. The soul is needing something, and it is
not getting it. And it is simply getting cheated by giving some bodily
pleasure for one life or bodily pleasure for many lives or totally
destroying the body so there is no senses, so there will be no agitation.
So this is all cheating. So (?QUOTE) And why one is attracted to this
cheating religion? Because we ha ve some enviousness of the Absolute
Truth. So how this came about we will discuss in a separate seminar. Let
us just take it, just like when you go to a school you take 2 + 2=4. You
dont immediately try to figure it out. You just take that and learn the
tables and then do big, big maths then Pythagoras therom commentary will
explain what is going on. So immediately dont go for the theroms. Just
go for 2 + 2=4. We have some enviousness of the Absolute Truth in our
hearts. Due to that enviousness w e get attracted to this, so we have to
remove or we have to purify that enviousness. That process is known as a
process for getting to Krsna. That is the path of perfection. Now you
see this side, the spiritual or constitutional religion means it satis
fies the needs of the soul, the essence religion or the scientific
religion, or the spiritual religion, or the constitutional religion. That
religion is pure devotional service to Krsna. With no other motive
(?QUOTE) Kicking out. This means devoid of f ruitive nature and
philosohical speculation etc. In that etc. falls upasana, yoga
everything. So that is known as pure devotional service. That pure
devotional service gives you , like this gives you material sense pleasure
for multiple lives, this gi ves you cessation of material misery, this
gives you sense pleasure for one life, this gives you love of God. This
love of God is the essence of religion - Krsna prema. That is our
constitutional need. We need love. We are made of love, we are fond of
love, we are connected by love, so we need love. So this love of God must
be there. And love of God is a result of pure devotional service. So as
much as these religions are coming from this portion of the scripture,
Vedas, with its leaves and braches, then there is also the scripture which
is the fruit of this Vedic tree, and that fruit is known as Srimad
Bhagavatam. (?QUOTE) Means written by a great sober person. A great
intelligent person - maha muni. This maha muni is Vyasadeva. (?QUOTE)
Now wha t is the use, this is the mood of the question, what is the mood
of any other book. (?) so that gives you the fruit. And that Srimad
Bhagavatam has a preliminary book too. And what is that preliminary book?
Preliminary book is like before the income tax law comes for this year
comes, they give you a preamble on income tax law. That preamble book is
Bhagavad-gita, spoken by Sri Krsna Himself. There are two kinds of Krsna
katha, one is spoken by Krsna and the other is spoken about Krsna. So
spoken by Krsna is Bhagavad-gita, Krsna katha. And spoken about Krsna is
Srimad Bhagavatam. Both these carry the fruit of Vedic literature. And
they have the essence. (?) So if you analyse this subject matter, and you
think for yourself. Now what is actual religion and what is ficticious
religion? What is the bogus hodge podge religion and what is the real
religion? And what religion is leaf and branches of the Veda and what
religion is the fruit of the Veda? So if you consider that then you will
simp ly come to the conclusion that taking the instruction of Sri Caitanya
Mahaprabhu we should just read Srimad Bhagavatam and have our foundation
for studiying Srimad Bhagavatam by studying Bhagavad-Gita, then all you
have to do is chant Hare Krsna Hare Krsn a Krsna Krsna Hare Hare/Hare Rama
Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare. And that conditional covering of the heart
will be purified, anartha nivrtti, when that purification is there then
the fruit can be tasted, there will be taste, (?). Then with that taste i
f you perform devotional service, then you will develop proper sentiment,
bhava. And from that bhava you get prema, Krsna prema. So this is a big
scientific subject. It is much bigger than Mr. Newton wrote, left side to
right, in Latin language in ques t of his truth. He wrote it in Latin
from left to right, so no one could read it, so no one could
understand it. And this is the greatness of Eistein. Einstein was
glorified because he figured out what was written in there. How he
figured it out, is a very interesting story. Einstein was standing there
for months with this peice of paper written by Newtown. And he was
looking at it and trying to figure out, what is this. And he couldnt.
Then one day, he would walk with it, he would stand with, he would take
bath with it, he would pass stool with it, he was so absorbed in it. One
day he was standing and his wife was combing his hair and he was standing
in front of the mirror and the wife figured it out. Because she looked in
the mirror and in the mirror you could read it. She said, Hey thats it.
She found out. He got the prize! So this is how science came to you, if
it was science. We dont even think it is science. Anyway this is what you
are studying by spending your fathers property. Ther e is so much science
in the Vedic literature and we dont study it, for no reason. No. The
reason is that the British told us, you just become clerks. So we just
want to become clerk. We got freedom simply (?). Thats all. The real
freedom is the cult ural freedom. The real freedom is the freedom of the
soul. Freedom from white, where is your freedom? You are wearing his
dress. And you say you are free. I dont think that this is free. You
are free but you are wearing the dress and he is wearing p yjamas (?).
The point is we are saying we are free but where is the freedom? But what
is the freedom? As soon as you kill the white man, kick them out of this
country, you are free. You are not free. You are not at all free, you are
more slave now than ever. More slave now. Because where is your freedom?
Your freedom means (?) that is your freedom. Freedom means Veda. Freedom
means knowledge. Ignorance is bondage. Ignorance is the cause of bondage
and knowledge is the cause of freedom. That is what the Upanisads say.
Simply by putting tri colors instead of multiple colors, it doesnt make
you free. You never become free. The real freedom is when you free the
soul from the cycles of material existence. And that is the knowledge of
this count ry. That is why everyone wanted to come to this country. Why
Columbus wanted to go to India? Not for frankincense only. Why everyone
wanted to come here? Because this is the land of knowledge. They knew
that this can solve all problems of life. An d if you go there you can
solve the problems of your life. This is why everybody, everyone. Why
(?) came? Not to get chickens from Goa. He had enough chickens in his
country. Why St. Thomas came here? Not for getting shot in (?). He didnt
come for t hat. Because they all knew here is the storehouse of
knowledge. Let us get this knowledge, that is why they came.
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