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Detaching politics from SRH (was: Re: RFD: soc.religion.hindu-reorganization)




The proposed RFD has statements which try to make srh.moderated
focus on religion, rather than politics. Obviously, in some cases,
politics and religion will overlap, and when that happens, the
RFD also has a statement which explains what the criteria are
for accepting articles dealing with politics.

Specifically, here are the revelant sentences from the RFD:

" Political announcements, hortatory articles, calls-to-action,
  reminders of past misdeeds, special-format postings, etc., will be
  rejected, as will postings that espouse hate. Moderators will
  discourage political discussions, but will permit postings that
  mention politics, as long as such are of an interest to a
  non-political audience."

If a newsgroup is to be a religious newsgroup, and not a 
political propaganda newsgroup, then those conditions seem
quite reasonable.

The proposed RFD also has statements which govern the behavior
of the moderators. Specifically, the RFD treats the moderator
as a peer of the reader, not as the ruler or dictator. As such,
the moderators are not to "throw their weight around", and cannot
use their moderator position in arguments.

After all, if you believe that the newsgroup is to serve a
readership, rather than serve the needs of the moderator, these
guidelines seem quite reasonable. Here is the section from
the RFD:

"No person serving as moderator of the SRH.* groups may claim status as
 such in any message except communication in his capacity as moderator
 (such as with authors of postings to SRH.* groups), and in
 administrative postings to said groups that relate to the newsgroup(s)
 themselves. Specifically, no moderator may use the official
 moderator's account for any purpose except performance of moderation
 duties. Any claim to status in matters unrelated to the SRH.*
 newsgroups, or misuse of the official moderation account for any
 purpose other than performance of moderation duties, will be
 considered grounds for automatic dismissal."

Once again, this seems quite reasonable, and the 4 proposed moderators
have agreed to these terms. I wholeheartedly support both of these
parts of the RFD, and both of them seem reasonable to me. I would
hope that they seem reasonable to a great number of people. If anyone
has objections to these parts of the RFD, I would be more than happy
to discuss them.

-Vivek
(submitted around Sat Dec 23 16:21:12 CST 1995)

In article <4bfp2e$5ss@babbage.ece.uc.edu>, jai@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj) writes:
|> In the article <4bdsp2$j2n@babbage.ece.uc.edu>,
|> of 22 Dec 1995 09:12:02 UTC,
|> mani@srirangam.esd.sgi.com (Mani Varadarajan) claims:
|> > . . . The reorganization proposal is designed to COMPLETELY
|> > DETACH all politics from this newsgroup.
|> 
|> Please stop your attempts at deception.  The proposed
|> RFD is *based* on politics and threats made by the
|> proponent/s of the so-called reorgization -- here is
|> just one piece of evidence:
|> 
|> : In news.groups, vri@tiac.net (Arun Malik) wrote:
|> : 
|> : ---------------- start quote -------------------
|> : Re: Fishy E-Mail: vote against soc.religion.vaishnava
|> : From: vivek@medea.cs.rice.edu (Vivek Sadananda Pai) 
|> : Date: 1995/11/13
|> : 
|> : MessageID: 488lua$mk7@larry.rice.edu#1/1
|> : 
|> : Therefore, I would hope that peopl of good conscience would get
|> : quite angry with you if you scuttle a newsgroup for your political
|> : desires, and they would see to it that your politics don't interfere
|> : with religion any more.
|> : 
|> : That is what you will have to contend with as the result of your
|> : actions.
|> : 
|> : Can you say karma?
|> : 
|> : -Vivek
|> : 
|> : ----------------- End quote ----------------------------------------
|> : 
|> : Yes Vivek, we can all say karma.  And now that I've published your
|> : words threatening Ajay Shah with retaliation for his actions during
|> : the SRV RFD/CFV who can now deny that the 
|> : soc.religion.hindu  reorganization effort is an act of vengence
|> : against Ajay Shah?
|> : 
|> : Arun Malik
|> : 



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