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Re: SRH Reorg:Skewed Stats of Posting Delays
In article <4bk609$rkt@babbage.ece.uc.edu> Ajay Shah wrote:
>The claim that the posts were as long as 10 days delayed is
>mostly hoax, since the posts referred to as being delayed for
>that many days were:
>1. either submitted to incorrect address (editor@rbhatnagar.csm.uc.edu
>instead of srh@rbhatngar.csm.uc.edu), and I manually "bounce" them
>whenever I see those messages.
This is something procmail could easily take care of, at the speed of
electrons (no manual bouncing needed)
>2. Submitted to alt.hindu, instead of soc.religion.hindu, and I
>manually changed the Newsgroup line, if they were more useful
>to SRH, so that they would be posted to SRH instead. This
>manual processessing is optional on my part and can take a few
>days.
Once again, this is something a simple filter could do; I am sure
it wouldn't take very long to write at all and I would be glad to
write it for you if you like.
>3. Some posts require extensive communications with the author.
But note that the ten-day-delay didn't refer to some specific post:
it referred to the fact that _no posts_ were cleared in that time.
Finally, when the gap ended, about 20 posts were approved at the same
time.
>Once again, additionally, I note that the time to archive is unrelated
>to the time the articles are posted.
The claim that this leads to skewed stats has already been answered,
but since you apparently missed it, here it is again.
In article <4bfp35$5tn@babbage.ece.uc.edu>,
Ajay Shah <editor@rbhatnagar.csm.uc.edu> wrote:
>In fact any statistics derived from the archival dates are
>bound to be skewed as well.
This is strictly not true. Don't try to pass this one off on us, I (and also
Mani) know MHonArc as well as you do. The "Date" field shown on any news
article processed by MHonArc is the time it was _posted_, not the time it
was added to the archive. The time of addition to the archive is
reflected in the UNIX directory, but _not_ in the archive produced
by MHonArc, which you and I both use to generate archives.
We used the Date field appearing in the MHonArc'ed posts, not in the
UNIX directory, to generate the following statistics page. So, the dates
we got were the dates the news messages were _posted_.
http://www-ece.rice.edu/~vijaypai/srh-stats.html
Yours,
Vijay
Submitted Dec 22, 1995 around 9:11 PM CST
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>I urge the proponents of SRH
>re-organiztion to utilize their time and effort to help the Hindu
>dharma on the net, rather than oppose the word Hindu first, or
it should be noted that no proponent of SRH-reorg opposes the word Hindu
>vote against the Hindu newsgroup first
and it should be noted that most of the proponents of SRH-reorg voted
for the Hindu newsgroup.
>regards,
>
>ajay shah
>ajay@mercury.aichem.arizona.edu
>editor@rbhatnagar.csm.uc.edu
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Maybe you should have listed srh@rbhatnagar.csm.uc.edu instead, so you
wouldn't have to manually bounce messages?
-- Vijay
Submitted Dec 24, 1995 around 2:45 PM CST
