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A response from Curtis Johnson to questions posed by Sankaran Jayanarayanan:

 SH> From: Sankaran Jayanarayanan <Kartik@eng.auburn.edu>
 SH> Subject: Questions
 SH> Date: 17 Dec 1995 21:14:35 GMT


 SH> I have 4 questions.

 SH> -Question 1-     TO ALL HINDUS-

 SH> I seem to have come across something to "disprove'
 SH> the Karma theory. Actually, I am just trying to understand
 SH> the Karma theory fully. I sincerely request someone to
 SH> throw light upon the following "PROOF"-

 SH>  According to a shloka by Veda Vyasa,

 SH> Anyway, It means, " the author of 18 puranas, Veda Vyasa,
 SH>  has said 2 things - to help others is punya and to harm
 SH> others is paapa. "

 SH> I'll assume another thing- there was a creation, before
 SH> which I assume that there was no such thing as Karma.

 SH> Consider 2 persons A and B. A harms B. A has commited
 SH> Paapa(sin). B has suffered because he had commited sin
 SH> sometime before(otherwise why should he suffer?).
 SH> B,therefore, harmed a guy - say, C. C suffered at B's hands
 SH> because C had commited sins sometime before, to someone,
 SH> say, D.  ...AND SO ON...

 SH> As you might have noticed, we have been going backwards in
 SH> time while analysing A,B,C,etc.. WE WOULD HAVE TO GO
 SH> INFINITELY BACKWARDS IN TIME IF WE ASSUME THE KARMA LAW-
 SH> i.e., the world has always existed- THERE IS NO CREATION!!

        I'm not a Hindu.  This question of the origin of evil has
 long been debated in Christian theology and philosophy, under the
 term "theodicy."  But I suspect that there is not enough
 parallelism to help you.
        In Far Eastern thought, there is the concept of unified
 opposites:  yin and yang, two commas together in one circle.  In
 other words, good cannot exist without evil.  I suspect, though,
 that this concept does not exist in Hinduism (though I'm not at
 all sure).
        One possible answer might be that the very first injured party
 would have been innocent, and that the chain of karma followed from this
 first link.
        Another possible answer might be that there would be some
 carry-over between universes in the cycle of created and destroyed
 universes.  Perhaps Hinduism would have less problem with such an
 infinite regression than would Western thought.
        A third possible answer might be that the division between
 good and evil might itself be a form of maya.
        And a fourth might be that even the creation and
 destruction of universes is a form of maya, that there is only
 Brahama.
        I know little about Hinduism; these are only off-the-cuff
 speculations about attempts to resolve this problem.

 SH> -Question 2-    TO THE ADVAITINS-

 SH> If the world is illusory, why practise anything at all?
 SH> Why renounce the world since that is illusory?
 SH> Why not just have a good time in this world instead of
 SH> practising religion, since they are all Maya anyway?

        But isn't realizing that it's Maya a religious realization?
        And doesn't this realization--or the quest for this
 realization--come from realizing that "a good time" is illusory?

 SH> -Question 3 -    TO THE VAISHNAVAS

 SH> Assuming Buddha to be God( I think it is mentioned in the
 SH> Srimad Bhagavatam),why do you still believe in Idol-worship?
 SH> (Since Buddha was against idol-worship).
 SH> Saying that " God especially manifests himself in the idol",
 SH> or " God and his form are One" etc. are unsatisfactory
 SH> arguments. If you can believe TO THE WORD what Krishna tells
 SH> you in the Gita, why do you treat Buddha's words in an
 SH> entirely different vein(not trusting to the word)?

        I do know that Buddhists definitely do not believe Buddha
 to be God.
        I don't know who Vaishnavas are.

 SH> -Question 4 -TO THE HARE-KRISHNAS-

 SH> I recently visited the Hare-Krishna home-page and found

 SH>   http://aristotle.algonet.se/~krishna/_q_20.htm

 SH>         There, I came across a passage saying-

 SH> "Shiva is the lord of cosmic devastation. Sakti is the
 SH> goddess of the total material nature, or prakriti. Because
 SH> Shiva is very easily pleased, those who desire rapid
 SH> material advancement for little effort are especially
 SH> interested in worshiping him and Sakti."

 SH> But on reading your piece about Shiva, It seems as if the
 SH> ONLY aim of the worship of shiva is to have material
 SH> advancement(though you have not explicitly mentioned ONLY).
 SH> You have not touched upon the aspect of worship of Shiva
 SH> for reaching That Purusha.

        This strikes me as a valid critique.

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