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Re: SRH Reorg: Personal Vendetta : Conclusive "Proof"!
Namaskar,
On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Vivek Sadananda Pai wrote:
> Many times, people have claimed that this reorg was an attempt to
> "destroy" SRH because its current moderator expressed an opinion.
> Nothing could be further from the truth, and that's why my last
Not just claimed, but presented ample evidence as well! As evident by
these posts, it is indeed a political move. Now, one may put any spin on
it, but the fact remains.
> The reorg RFD will not only expand SRH, but it will make it more
> responsive and a more enjoyable place. The hate and the pure politics
> will vanish from SRH.moderated, and hopefully, more religious
There is no hate and pure politics. Neither is there any moderatin
bias. After all, the proponents of SRH re-org have failed to provide a
single post that has been unfairly rejected from soc.religion.hindu.
Leading most of the readers, I am certain, to conclude that the re-org
move is nothing but a personal vendetta. A warning to all those who wish
to express their personal opinion regarding Hindu unity.
>
> In article <4cgeub$k5a@babbage.ece.uc.edu>,
> Ajay Shah <editor@rbhatnagar.csm.uc.edu> wrote:
> >On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Vivek Sadananda Pai wrote:
> >
> They aren't double standards, and your sentence indicates why -- these
> people maintain the hardware and software of the moderation
> robot. They are "mere mortals" by definition - they have to follow the
What are the provisions in SRV charter for replacing the hardware and
software maintainers? None.
What are the provisions in SRV charter for multiple machine/multiple site
moderation? None.
What are the provisions in SRV charter for replacing the programmer (who
is effectively a moderator)? None.
What is the provision in SRV charter for removing call-for-action? None.
What if the SRV host machine has problems on a given day, due to upgrade
schedules or a breakdown? Why aren't there multiple sites hosting SRV?
All this seems like clear double standard to me. And I am sure to many
others observing this debate. So why these moderation policy double
standards?
Simple, because the proponents of SRH re-org who were among the most
vocal supporters of SRV creation want to maintain their strong hold on
SRV, but destroy/control SRH.
> You posted messages from your SRH accounts, and you noted you position
> as SRH moderator in the messages. Why didn't you list your employer,
Please check once again, the main post did appear from ajay@mercury
account. I can use any account at my disposal for expressing my personal
opinion.
>
> Well, at least now you're no longer claiming that this whole issue
> revolves around just your personal opposition. The rules for the
It most certainly does. Vivekji, as I mentioned earlier, I appreciate
your initiative in speaking for me, but please allow me to speak for
myself. So once again, let me emphasize, the SRH re-org RFD evolves out
of petty politics and personal vendetta, simply and solely because I
insisted on the word Hindu in the Vaishnava newsgroup name.
> behavior of a moderator should be clear, and that's what the reorg RFD
> attempts to do. So, now, let's move on and if you have any comments
> about it, please make them.
>
So, as one of the proponents of SRV, what rrestrictions have you placed
on the behavior of the software writer, maintainer, hardware maintainer?
None! right? Sounds like double standards to me!
> an attempt by some Vaisnavas to attack a Hindu newsgroup, I wanted to
> clear the air. It definitely is not an attack on a Hindu newsgroup,
I never said that this is an attack by some Vaishnavas to attack the
Hindu newsgroup. I said that it is an attempt by some of the proponents
and supporters of the SRV to destroy/control the Hindu newsgroup. Let us
please not turn this one into a Vaishnava/Non-Vaishnava fight. That is
very detrimental to Hindu unity. in the words of Narashima Mehta, a 16
th. century Gurajarti poet,
Vaishnava Jana To Tene Re Kahiye Je pida parayi Jane Re!
One who knows the sufferings of a fellow human being is a Vaishnava.
Many of us who insisted on the word Hindu in Vaishnava newsgroup do not
wish to disown our Vaishnava beliefs and Vaishnava heritage.
> -Vivek
regards,
ajay
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