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Ramakrishnan Balasubramanian <rbalasub@ecn.purdue.edu> wrote:

> sankar Jayanarayanan <kartik@eng.auburn.edu> wrote:
>
> > > How can time not be subject to sense perception? Otherwise how will you know
> > > that something such as time exists?
> >
> > Which sense organ perceives time as such? Time is _never_ perceived by _any_
> > sense organ.
>
> Sorry for the slightly unclear statement, however you should have seen it in
> the light of my whole post. I know that there is no organ X which measures
> time. The point was that when the mind is inactive there is no perception of
> time. The perception of time, when there is a perception, is always indirect. I
> beleive I wrote in my post that one does not perceive time in deep sleep. So
> without the mind there is no time. Similarly in a dream do you not feel the
> passing of time? It's only the creation of your mind, since it's not perceived
> by anyone outside your dream. Elementary :-).

  While  time is  a creation  of  the mind  one  of its  agents is  memory,
  especially the  retrieval of memory.  I feel this is one  reason why time
  perception is  not so concrete  in early  childhood,  since a child lives
  mainly in the present without recollecting much from the past.

  One of  the common experiences  of dreams is  that dream time  moves much
  faster than time in the world.  Many events happen in a short dream sleep
  session.

  However interestingly dream  activities take place in real time.  That is
  if  you take  5 seconds  to finish  saying a  sentence or  climb 5  steps
  normally,  you would take the same time to do it in a dream.  I read this
  in a dreams FAQ on the web.

  The dream  time appears to  be faster because of  some kind of  mixing of
  memories from distant  past and recent past.  So here again memory is the
  agent of time.

  However from  the absolute  standpoint I  suppose memory  too would  be a
  creation of the mind.

> Ramakrishnan.

Suresh.


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