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Re: Creation Theories in Advaita



M Suresh  <msuresh@india.ti.com> writes:

>I have heard the following four creation theories with reference to advaita
>philosophy.

>1. Ajaati Vaada ( No Creation ).

>2. Drishti Srishti Vaada.

>3. Srishti Drishti Vaada.

>4. Krama Srishti Vaada ( Gradual creation ).

>Does anyone have more information on what these theories are? 

>Thanks in advance for any info.

>regards,
>Suresh.

	I think 3,4 are the same. 
**
'Talks with Ramana Maharshi' page 421.

Maharshi:
There are three methods of approach in Advaita vada.

1. The ajaata vaada is represented by no loss, no creation, no one bound,
no saadhaka, no one desirous of liberation, no liberation. This is the
Supreme Truth. (Mandukya Karika, 2.32)             
	According to this, there is only One and it admits of no discussion.

2. Drishti Srishtivada is illustrated thus : Simultaneous creation. There
are two friends sleeping side by side. One of them dreams that he goes to
Benares with his friend and returns. He tells his friend that both of them
have been in Benares. The other denies it. The statement is true from the
standpoint of one and the denial from that of the other.

3. Srishti Drishtivada is plain (Gradual creation and knowledge of it).

**

Regarding concepts [of creation etc], let me quote Ramesh Balsekar :

Concepts can at best only serve to negate one another, 
as one thorn is used to remove another, and then be thrown away. 
Only in deep silence do we leave concepts behind. 
Words and language deal only with concepts, and cannot approach Reality.  
Ceasing to conceptualize means ceasing to perceive objectively,
which means perceiving non-objectively. 
It is to see the universe without choice or judgement and 
without getting into subject-object relationship. 
What happens then? Nothing, except that you are what you were 
before you were born: everything  

**

	Maybe this is a good subject for the advaita mailing list. Namaste.


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