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Re: ARTICLE : Who decided that all vaishnavs are not hindus



Roy Raja <rajaroy@ecf.toronto.edu> wrote:

>  Are you implying that vaishnavs are not hindus at all? We can discuss
>  that, but what is your logic in claiming that some vaishnavs are hindus,
>  and some are not. Logically, either all vaishnavs are hindus, or none
>  of vaishnavs are hindus. Can you tell what is your view before we 
>   proceed? 

Maha Raja:   I think this semantic problem arises because the word 'Hindu' 
is given two meanings in most dictionaries:  one is religious, the other 
is cultural.

As soon as we involve the word 'Vaishnava',  the religious connotation of 
the word 'Hindu' becomes meaningless,  since 'Hindu' is really a variety 
of preferred views of God, one of which is the Vaishnava perception.  To 
me, Hinduism means Krsna and the Bhagavad-gita - - - how could it be 
anything else?  But it is so very varied.  It may well be argued that the 
various ideologies within the blanket of 'Hinduism' could all be
compatible, just differing levels/aspects of realization of Krsna's ultimate 
position; like arithmetic, geometry, algebra, calculus, and fractal 
geometry can all be considered as aspects of mathematics.

I think when someone says that not all Vaishnavas are Hindus, they are 
using the cultural definition of 'Hindu'  - - -  like myself, who sees 
God in His eternal form of Syamasundara, Krsna my Lord  - - - but my body 
was born in Canada and would clearly stand out in a crowd in Calcutta. 

Ghari
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"Abandon all varieties of religion and just surrender unto Me.  I shall 
deliver you from all sinful reaction.  Do not fear."  --  God, Bhagavad-gita


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