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Re: REQUEST : RISHIS
In article <ghenDxxs3x.J7t@netcom.com>,
Joseph M. Emmanuel <maitreya@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:24:21 GMT, Narender Reddy
><npreddy@brain.biomed.uakron.edu> wrote:
>>All the Satvik Puranas declare that Sharanagathi or devotional surrender
>>to Vishnu (Lord Sriman Narayana or Krishna) can releive us from the cycle
>>of birth and death.
>
>But some say you have to surrender to Yahweh, Christ, Allah, etc. How can
>there be One God and all these claim to be Him?
I don't see what the problem is here. Even if there is only one God,
there can be many claims that either oneself or some (hypothetical)
someone is God. You are simply assuming that every claim (or even any
claim) is necessarily right, and that is not logical.
>>> Can one Surrender to Vishnu, Shiva, etc. instead of Krishna? What is the
>>> difference?
>>
>>Yes! There is a big difference. Surrendering to Shiva will get you
>>significant material benefits but can not releive you from the cycle of
>>birth and death.
>
>So you are saying Shiva is not God. So there are more than One God. Some
>lead you to Solvation (from cycle death and rebirth) and others do not.
The Bhagavad Gita says that. As do many other types of scripture for
many other faiths. But usually one does not find "some lead you to
salvation," but One leads you to salvation, and the others do not.
>>> Sounds like a Haree Krishna devote!!???
>>
>> No! I am not a Hare Krishna devotee. Why do you brand me as a Hare
>>Krishna devotee when I revealed the truth propogated by all the satvik
>>puranas including Srimad Bhagavatham, Padma Puranam, etc.
>
>Because Hare Krishna devotees, and also Hinduism talk about One God and
>then go on to brake Him to pieces and create separation among man. They
>talk much, Reveal much Truth, but also follow much False (like all
>religions). They discard this world and this philosophy create much
>suffering and misery for human. That they should include other Religion to
>Perfect what they have!
I fail to follow the reasoning you have offered.
If, in your view, the Hare Krishnas are not doing the right thing,
then that does not necessarily have anything to do with there being
one God or many. The number of Gods is not malleable by human action,
one would think. If you think it is, then we have serious fundamental
differences and will never come to any substantive agreement.
Secondly, it is not clear how anyone discards "this world and this
philosophy" and creates much suffering, etc. If, in your view, anyone
who discards your philosophy is wrong, then you are no different from
a zillion others who say the same thing about themselves. And it is
not quite clear why discarding a particular stream of philosophy is
fundamentally wrong. Your objection to someone who discards the world
appears to show that you believe in some form of nature worship -- I
think?
>>> -Joseph (maitreya@worldnet.att.net)
>>> One God, One World, One Humanity
>>> Unity Of All Under One God
>>
>>Yes! There is only one god and several demigods. "
>
>If there is One Omnipotent God, there can not be any demigods! That
>Omnipotent God is Formless, Invisible, Nameless and Eternal (FINE).
Wherefrom does one arrive at the inference rule that _if_ there is an
Omnipotent God, _then_ he/she/it is formless, etc.? Also note that I
would object that such an entity, were it to exist, would have the
flaws of not have a form or name, and thus, your "God" is postulated
with two flaws inherent in his/her/its character.
Regards,
Shrisha Rao
> -Joseph (maitreya@worldnet.att.net)
