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Namaste
Hi Sankaran,
I have been lurking here for a short while, to try and get a
better understanding of your religion. (If the only interaction
that the various religions have with one another is via internet
trolls and/or those members of our respective groups who are
intolerant of others beliefs, then misrepresentation,
misunderstanding, hatred and intollerance can only come of it.)
So, though I am a Pagan, I look to learn more about other
beliefs and the people who follow them.
There are some points here that I feel able to comment on.
>Undoubtedly, that would be good evidence or justification for the
>beliefs for the person who touched Christ's hand. But hardly any reason
>for another not to reject the claim as mere hallucination.
>
>Jesus appeared to a friend of mine -- and asked him to worship Shiva ;-)
>And no, I'm not fabricating this story -- my friend claims it really
>happenned. He's a sincere devotee of Shiva now :-)
>
Exactly, though these events are undoubtably irrivokable 'proof'
as far as the recipient is concerned. They are not 'proof' to
others, more 'heresay'.
Belief is an intensly personal thing and we will each have a
differant perception of events based on our individual point of
view.
Whilst it would be incorrect, intolerant and inpolite for me to
state that your friend didn't see Jesus, I have no 'proof' that
he didn't. It is quite correct to say that, unless such happened
to me, hence changing my current position, then it has no
bearing on my personal beliefs.
However that does not stop it being interesting! :)
>For instance, the claim that there exists a God who is omnipresent,
>omnipotent, infinite, formless and eternal. Read the Vishnu Sahasranama,
>which says that Vishnu is Vishnu (literally "omnipresent"), SarvaJNaH
>(omniscient), asaMkheyaH (infinite), amUrtiH (formless), anAdiH (without
>origin) and anantaH (without end). I think the claims are quite similar.
>
>Moreover, Jesus claimed that "My father and I are one" (somewhere in the
>New T.) One branch of Hinduism says that all men are one with God, and
>that Jesus was no exception.
>
Whilst I have not found any claims about connections between
Christ and Hinduism in my studies, there are referances to some
of the kabbalah steming from older sorces, which is quite likely
to have had a sanskrit origin.
The old testement is full of kabbalistic symbology and in
his studys, it is possible that Jesus could have learned these
concepts through that medium. The consepts you refer to can all
be found in kabbalism. This could explain why the simalarity
without the neccesity for direct contact by Jesus himself!
I am not saying he didn't, but it is another possibility!
>Not true, though there are some sects within Hinduism which believe in
>something similar -- that there are many paths (not that all paths are
>equal, which might be taken to mean that even evil ways are OK).
>
>According to those who follow Bhaktivedanta's teachings, the only way is
>Bhakti (devotion) to Krishna -- even those who try weird routes like
>JNAna Yoga need to finally resort to Bhakti. There is simply no other
>way.
>
>According to the tradition I am in, the only way is Self-enquiry, and
>the only goal is Self-realization.
>
Ah, a simalarity between our two beliefs, The Wiccan (a pagan
path) statement : "If that which thou seekest, thou findest not
within thee, thou wilt never find it without thee" would be akin
to your 'self-enquiry'?
Or have I miss-interperated your meaning?
In what way do you define 'self-realization'? as I think that we
have the same goal, but possibly state if in a different manner.
If we can find the things we have in common, dosn't it make
understanding those things that are differant between us that
much easier?
In friendship,
Bright Blessings,
-- Raven (Brit) (Raven@arpeggio.demon.co.uk)
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