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re: avatars...(Sai Baba is *NOT*)
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Subject: re: avatars...(Sai Baba is *NOT*)
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From: manish@cadence.com (Manish Tandon)
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 14:53:46 GMT
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In article <32bqii$8eq@ucunix.san.uc.edu>, <news@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> writes:
|> >Satya Sai Baba is perhaps one of the best propagandists this world
|> >has ever come by...
|> >Unquestioning devotees such as the one quoted above simply
|> >propagate further incredulous stories about this man...
|>
|> Who or what told you I'm "unquestioning"? I have questioned Sai Baba
|> at least as much as anyone else I can recall.
NO you havent. Read below for WHY.
|> I'm not talking hear-say (like you and many others) - I'm talking
|> MY OWN GENUINE EXPERIENCE. I have spoken often to Sai, been in a
|> 15ft x 15ft room ALONE with Him for over 20 minutes - on more than one
|> occasion... Why elaborate? In short, I didn't form my opinions of
|> Him after reading some newspaper or news-article.
Why are you mentioning the size of the room here? It has _absolutely_ no
relevence to the subject.
btw, 'MY OWN GENUINE EXPERIENCE' is a very subjective term and has absolutely
no meaning outside the realm of your own mind (and possibly heart). If you
claim that your experience is the authority for judging who is GOD, then
indirectly you are claiming that your _judgement_ power is the same as GOD,
so infact you yourself are GOD. See the contridiction?
|> . . . Here's who have recognized Sai's divinity.
|>
|> 1. Sri Swami Sivananda (Founder, Divine Life Society, Rishikesh)
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|> 2. Sri Swami Chidananda and Sri Swami Satchidananda
|>
|> 3. Sri Aurobindo, Aurobindo Ashram (Pondicherry)
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|> 4. Among other devotees are:
|> Sunil Gavaskar (cricketer, India),
|> P. V. Narsimha Rao (PM, India),
|> S. D. Sharma (President, India),
|> P. Venkataraman (former President),
|> . . . .
|>
|> Are these people crazed "cult members"? I suggest you research your
|> opinions a litte more - I mean genuine research - see for YOURSELF.
No. These people are not crazed cult members. HOWEVER, there are other classes
of people besides _cult_ members and _notCult_ members. One of these classes
is _ignorant_. If any or all of these people (includind you) consider Sai
baba as GOD, then they are all ignorant. WHY? Read below.
|> >The short answer is -- no one man on this earth can give you happiness...
|> No one said so. Sai Baba is GOD.
_NO_ he IS NOT.
WHY IS he NOT GOD?
Mr. Sai baba claims that he is GOD based upon the _VEDIC_ scriptures, saying
that he is the _KALKI_ avatar for Kali yuga. Anyone can tell that _you_
have never seen a _VEDIC_ scripture in your life. WHY this claim?
Scripture very clearly say that the Kalki avatar will be at the end of the
Kali-yuga (the present age of quarrel and hypocrisy). The duration of the
Kali-yuga is mentioned in the scriptures as 430000 years, and it only started
about 5000 years ago.
Okay, maybe you dont believe in this number.
Here is the subjective definition of the end of Kali-yuga. "The time when
irreligion will become all-pervading and _no one_ will be able to practice
religion openly."
Yes there is irreligion in the present society. But, it will be extremely
foolish to say that we are at a stage that practicing religion has been
declared a criminal offense or something.
Besides this, there is a very vivid description of the Kalki avatar in the
scriptures. One is that He will be born of an unwed teenage brahmin girl.
Do a favour to yourself (and others, all this poison that you are spreading),
read some of the scriptures on the basis of which Sai baba claims to be GOD.
AND, next time you get the opportunity to talk with Sai baba in a 15ft x 15ft
room ALONE, ask him how is it that the very scriptures on the authority of
which he claims to be GOD say that he is not.
BTW, I dont call Sai baba any names or propagandaist etc. He is a human
being like me and you and so he has both good and bad side just like anyone
of us, and this is very normal.
|> SriKrishna Darbha
|> 4th year Electrical Engg.
|> U. of Waterloo, ON, CANADA
